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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    How is the inflation measured?

    When they say that Sept was 8.2%, are they taking the month by month increase (or decrease) from the last 12 months and adding it together? So, a "rolling" 12 month average?

    Or is it calculated differently?

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      How is the inflation measured?

      When they say that Sept was 8.2%, are they taking the month by month increase (or decrease) from the last 12 months and adding it together? So, a "rolling" 12 month average?

      Or is it calculated differently?

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      @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

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        @LuFins-Dad Thanks!!!

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

          @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

          Unless you're POTUS, or the Speaker of the House, in which case you look at the July index and compare it to the June index and, because it's 8.2% in both, you say "Inflation is zero."

          Biden, Aug. 10: Before I begin today, I want to say a word about the news that came out today relative to the economy. Actually, I just want to say a number: zero. Today, we received news that our economy had 0% inflation in the month of July. Zero percent.

          Pelosi said at an Aug. 12 press conference: “As you see, inflation was zero for the past month, zero increase.”

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

            @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

            Unless you're POTUS, or the Speaker of the House, in which case you look at the July index and compare it to the June index and, because it's 8.2% in both, you say "Inflation is zero."

            Biden, Aug. 10: Before I begin today, I want to say a word about the news that came out today relative to the economy. Actually, I just want to say a number: zero. Today, we received news that our economy had 0% inflation in the month of July. Zero percent.

            Pelosi said at an Aug. 12 press conference: “As you see, inflation was zero for the past month, zero increase.”

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            @George-K said in Inflation:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

            @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

            Unless you're POTUS, or the Speaker of the House, in which case you look at the July index and compare it to the June index and, because it's 8.2% in both, you say "Inflation is zero."

            Biden, Aug. 10: Before I begin today, I want to say a word about the news that came out today relative to the economy. Actually, I just want to say a number: zero. Today, we received news that our economy had 0% inflation in the month of July. Zero percent.

            Pelosi said at an Aug. 12 press conference: “As you see, inflation was zero for the past month, zero increase.”

            That would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

            I was only joking

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

              @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

              Unless you're POTUS, or the Speaker of the House, in which case you look at the July index and compare it to the June index and, because it's 8.2% in both, you say "Inflation is zero."

              Biden, Aug. 10: Before I begin today, I want to say a word about the news that came out today relative to the economy. Actually, I just want to say a number: zero. Today, we received news that our economy had 0% inflation in the month of July. Zero percent.

              Pelosi said at an Aug. 12 press conference: “As you see, inflation was zero for the past month, zero increase.”

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              @George-K said in Inflation:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

              @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

              Unless you're POTUS, or the Speaker of the House, in which case you look at the July index and compare it to the June index and, because it's 8.2% in both, you say "Inflation is zero."

              Biden, Aug. 10: Before I begin today, I want to say a word about the news that came out today relative to the economy. Actually, I just want to say a number: zero. Today, we received news that our economy had 0% inflation in the month of July. Zero percent.

              Pelosi said at an Aug. 12 press conference: “As you see, inflation was zero for the past month, zero increase.”

              July of 2021 had a lower CPI than September of 2021. Finding the actual CPI numbers goes beyond my simple Googlefu but I know that 8.2% increase ~5.5% is greater than 8.2% over 4.2%…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @George-K said in Inflation:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                @taiwan_girl they take the index for last September and compare it for this September and calculate the percentage increase/decrease.

                Unless you're POTUS, or the Speaker of the House, in which case you look at the July index and compare it to the June index and, because it's 8.2% in both, you say "Inflation is zero."

                Biden, Aug. 10: Before I begin today, I want to say a word about the news that came out today relative to the economy. Actually, I just want to say a number: zero. Today, we received news that our economy had 0% inflation in the month of July. Zero percent.

                Pelosi said at an Aug. 12 press conference: “As you see, inflation was zero for the past month, zero increase.”

                July of 2021 had a lower CPI than September of 2021. Finding the actual CPI numbers goes beyond my simple Googlefu but I know that 8.2% increase ~5.5% is greater than 8.2% over 4.2%…

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #165

                Biden and Pelosi seem to be unaware of the difference between an increase and an increase in rate of change.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Biden and Pelosi seem to be unaware of the difference between an increase and an increase in rate of change.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Inflation:

                  Biden and Pelosi seem to be unaware of the difference between an increase and an increase in rate of change.

                  I suspect they are dumbing down the messaging so that people with circa 5th percentile critical thing skills will buy this story that makes their party look competent.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #167

                    It occurred to me that Herschel Walker's $700 check to his mistress for an abortion could actually help Republicans because it reminds Americans how much the price of an abortion has gone up.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-401k-contribution-limit-increasing-by-record/

                      "The IRS on Friday said it is boosting the 2023 contribution limits for 401(k)s by a record $2,000 due to the high pace of inflation, which will allow workers to sock away more money in 2023.

                      Individuals will be able to save up to $22,500 in their 401(k)s next year, an increase of 9.8% from the current year's limit of $20,500, the agency said in a statement. The new limit also applies to other types of defined contribution plans, including 403(b), most 457 plans and the federal government's Thrift Savings Plan."
                      ...

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        It occurred to me that Herschel Walker's $700 check to his mistress for an abortion could actually help Republicans because it reminds Americans how much the price of an abortion has gone up.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                        It occurred to me that Herschel Walker's $700 check to his mistress for an abortion could actually help Republicans because it reminds Americans how much the price of an abortion has gone up.

                        The gas to drive your girlfriend out of State is going to cost more than that at the rate we're going.

                        I was only joking

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          #170

                          If you asked the average guy on the street if inflation was more or less than 8%, I suspect the answer would be more than 8%.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            If you asked the average guy on the street if inflation was more or less than 8%, I suspect the answer would be more than 8%.

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                            @Jolly said in Inflation:

                            If you asked the average guy on the street if inflation was more or less than 8%, I suspect the answer would be more than 8%.

                            I agree. I think a lot of people would respond that it is 20% or even more.

                            Thailand inflation is quite high. The thing that is saving US expats is the USD vs, Thai baht is doing well, so the inflation is not noticed as much?

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                              https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/27/business/mcdonalds-prices/index.html

                              McDonald’s third quarter prices were up around 10% year over year on average.

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                                #173

                                Well, bud, I did some grocery shopping today. Everything's higher.

                                Some items have almost doubled in the last year.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Yup, very much noticeable at the grocery store.

                                  It's also a shame how prices have gone up for everything else, even if they aren't impacted by supply chain or other reasons. It's a game of "I can charge more because my neighbor is charging more". It's part of the free market game... we enjoyed over a decade of low rates, low inflation, strong growth, and now the pendulum is swinging back.

                                  @Axtremus A McD's meal basically costs $10 at this point. For a family of four, it's cheaper now to order take-out from Applebees, or a Chinese restaurant.

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                                    Eurozone Inflation Rate Rises to 10.7% as Recession Looms

                                    The annual rate of consumer-price inflation in the eurozone increased to double digits in October, reaching a record and highlighting the challenges facing the European Central Bank after it signaled a coming slowdown in the pace of its rate increases.

                                    The broad measure of consumer prices has risen sharply since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Moscow’s decision to throttle natural gas supplies to Europe to undermine Western support for Kyiv. By mid-September, Russia had cut its supplies to 80% of their year-earlier total.

                                    Europe has had to look elsewhere for gas supplies, and paid much higher prices. While storage levels are now high, and gas prices on world markets have fallen from their peaks, household energy bills lag behind those moves and are much higher than a year earlier, as are food prices.

                                    As a result of these pressures, inflation in the region has overtaken the level in the U.S. Now it is fueling demand for higher pay in the most affected countries, which could in turn feed into further price rises.

                                    The European Union’s statistics agency Monday said consumer prices were 10.7% higher in October than a year earlier, the fastest rate of increase since records began in 1997, two years before the euro was launched. However, national records go back further, and Germany’s measure of inflation was the highest since December 1951.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      Eurozone Inflation Rate Rises to 10.7% as Recession Looms

                                      The annual rate of consumer-price inflation in the eurozone increased to double digits in October, reaching a record and highlighting the challenges facing the European Central Bank after it signaled a coming slowdown in the pace of its rate increases.

                                      The broad measure of consumer prices has risen sharply since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Moscow’s decision to throttle natural gas supplies to Europe to undermine Western support for Kyiv. By mid-September, Russia had cut its supplies to 80% of their year-earlier total.

                                      Europe has had to look elsewhere for gas supplies, and paid much higher prices. While storage levels are now high, and gas prices on world markets have fallen from their peaks, household energy bills lag behind those moves and are much higher than a year earlier, as are food prices.

                                      As a result of these pressures, inflation in the region has overtaken the level in the U.S. Now it is fueling demand for higher pay in the most affected countries, which could in turn feed into further price rises.

                                      The European Union’s statistics agency Monday said consumer prices were 10.7% higher in October than a year earlier, the fastest rate of increase since records began in 1997, two years before the euro was launched. However, national records go back further, and Germany’s measure of inflation was the highest since December 1951.

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                                      @George-K Blame it on President Biden!! LOL

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @George-K Blame it on President Biden!! LOL

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                                        @taiwan_girl Don't worry, we will.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
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                                          Every single thing at the grocery store is up at least 50%.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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