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A Medical Fallacy

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  • George KG Offline
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    Who knew! Stacy Abrams is a biologist!

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Who knew! Stacy Abrams is a biologist!

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      @George-K True enough. But I don’t know what point it serves. Maybe the uncertainty is relevant with a six week rule, but 15?

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        @George-K True enough. But I don’t know what point it serves. Maybe the uncertainty is relevant with a six week rule, but 15?

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        @jon-nyc said in A Medical Fallacy:

        I don’t know what point it serves.

        The fact that she refuses to be pinned down as to when "life" begins, and by extension, when it's OK to terminate the pregnancy.

        And, what she says is wrong. It's not a fallacy. Pregnancy begins with fertilization.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Of course, but the point I thought was being made is you can’t restrospectively determine exactly when that was. IOW, no physician can say that this girl is 5 weeks and 6 days pregnant whereas the one over here is 6 weeks and a day, so the first can have the abortion but not the second.

          And having a 6 week limit rather implies that we can.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Of course, but the point I thought was being made is you can’t restrospectively determine exactly when that was. IOW, no physician can say that this girl is 5 weeks and 6 days pregnant whereas the one over here is 6 weeks and a day, so the first can have the abortion but not the second.

            And having a 6 week limit rather implies that we can.

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            @jon-nyc said in A Medical Fallacy:

            Of course, but the point I thought was being made is you can’t restrospectively determine exactly when that was. IOW, no physician can say that this girl is 5 weeks and 6 days pregnant whereas the one over here is 6 weeks and a day, so the first can have the abortion but not the second.

            And having a 6 week limit rather implies that we can.

            Making a measurement or a judgment does not imply 100% confidence that there is no error.

            Education is extremely important.

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              You can image a cottage industry of physicians who will be very lenient with the “yeah that seems like about 6 weeks to me…”

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                Yes, exactly.

                The same would happen if abortion was only allowed in cases of rape and incest.

                Rapists would be selling their services for top dollar.

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                  I would imagine that the President of Earth in 400 years would know all kinds of sciencey things.

                  The Brad

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