I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners
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I treat pit bulls the same way as I treat the coyote and wolf crosses - which are very common here. I avoid eye contact and let them come to me when they are ready. Even then I show the back of my hand and speak quietly and emotionless. I always assume their next move will be to tear my hand and face off.
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I treat pit bulls the same way as I treat the coyote and wolf crosses - which are very common here. I avoid eye contact and let them come to me when they are ready. Even then I show the back of my hand and speak quietly and emotionless. I always assume their next move will be to tear my hand and face off.
@Renauda said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
the coyote and wolf crosses - which are very common here
These are bred as “pets?”
Why?
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@jon-nyc said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
I dated a girl with a large Pitt bull. Motherfucker was ripped too.
Was the dog muscular, too?
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@Renauda said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
the coyote and wolf crosses - which are very common here
These are bred as “pets?”
Why?
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I dunno if they are breeding them, but coydog crosses are not uncommon down here. Usually we find them running with the coyotes, though.
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I dunno if they are breeding them, but coydog crosses are not uncommon down here. Usually we find them running with the coyotes, though.
@Jolly said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
I dunno if they are breeding them, but coydog crosses are not uncommon down here. Usually we find them running with the coyotes, though.
I suspect the coyotes manage to do that without assistance....
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MS is looking at Dobermans as a good family pet, short hair, obedient, good protection, and threatening enough that she can walk around the neighborhood unmolested.
(We have a very green zone town on the recently abandoned Trulia heat map. 2 or 3 months ago at 2pm on a Saturday, a woman walking alone on the sidewalk was accosted by a man in a car who jumped out and demanded she get in the car. She ran away, and he was apprehended a few days later. Woman in general are not safe to walk or run alone anywhere in America.)
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A) A dog is a good idea.
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A) A dog is a good idea.
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MS is looking at Dobermans as a good family pet, short hair, obedient, good protection, and threatening enough that she can walk around the neighborhood unmolested.
(We have a very green zone town on the recently abandoned Trulia heat map. 2 or 3 months ago at 2pm on a Saturday, a woman walking alone on the sidewalk was accosted by a man in a car who jumped out and demanded she get in the car. She ran away, and he was apprehended a few days later. Woman in general are not safe to walk or run alone anywhere in America.)
I have always found Dobies a bit high strung. If you want the attributes of Doberman but without the high nervous energy have a look at Rhodesian Ridgebacks. If it weren’t so damn cold here in winter I wouldn’t hesitate at getting another. Like Dobermans, Ridgebacks are follicly challenged and do not care the frigid cold -20 c or colder. Mine had a mini cordura horse blanket for the deep winter days as well as a heated dog house.
Elbows up!
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I have no idea how accurate this is, but I'm just throwing this out there.
The Real Problem with Pit Bulls
Should they be illegal?
Debates about Pit Bulls always end up being extremely contentious because things inevitably break down into two camps.
The first camp is people who are understandably frightened of Pit Bulls because they regularly see stories like this. Incidentally, there are more Pit Bull attacks reported, and deaths caused by Pit Bulls than any other breed. There is absolutely no question that the most dangerous breed of dog in the United States is a Pit Bull.
The counterargument almost always made by Pit Bull Owners, is that “Pit Bull attacks are still very rare percentage-wise, and have you ever met my Pit Bull? She’s the sweetest, most lovable, most adorable dog I have ever met.”
Incidentally, both of these arguments have some merit.
On a personal note, almost every Pit Bull I have ever been around has been a really sweet dog. Of course, in part, that’s because if I don’t like their body language and they don’t come across as sweet and friendly, I’m not going around them or taking my dogs around them. That’s because they're still an animal, and yes, even really sweet, good-natured dogs can have a bad day under the right circumstances. For most dogs, that bad day is small potatoes. For a Pit Bull, it can mean stitches or bloody corpses.
What that means is that if you have a Pit Bull, you are taking a much bigger risk than almost any other dog owner – and quite frankly, the vast majority of dog owners are not up to the challenge. In my experience, most dog owners have about the same knowledge level I did early on with my first dog, if not less. They don’t know how to train their dogs. They don’t exercise their dogs enough. They don’t socialize their dogs enough. They really don’t understand how dogs behave and can’t read their body language. They don’t know how to lead their dog. They pass on their insecure emotional state to their dog. Once you start paying attention to it, it’s amazing how often dogs take on the personalities of their owners, whether that’s anxious, scared, or confident. This is why shelters all across America are full of Pit Bulls. People who don’t know to handle animals get them, the dog behaves badly because its owner did a poor job, and the dog spends the rest of his life in a cage until he dies of old age or gets the needle.
Having a Pit Bull? It really shouldn’t be something for a casual dog owner. You need someone who knows what they’re doing and is willing to put the time and resources into making sure that the dog is properly trained. Even then, you have a never-ending level of responsibility that other dog owners don’t have. You need to pay more attention, engage in more training, take fewer risks and be far less tolerant of bad behavior than other dog owners. My dog? Having a Catahoula Leopard Dog is almost like having a two-year-old. Having a Pit-Bull? That’s like having a four-year-old who deliberately tried to drown his sister in the pool last year and you had to explain to him why that was wrong. You THINK he understands that he shouldn’t do that again, but you’re not 100% sure. Could I handle a Pit Bull? Yes, but, it’s not a responsibility I’d want to take on.
Still, it’s a free country and yes, people should be able to own Pit Bulls if they choose. That being said, for your sake, for your children’s sake, and for the dog’s sake, make sure you are ready to take on a level of responsibility that is higher than it would be for any other dog. The world doesn’t need any more heartbroken parents, dead kids, or Pit Bulls living out the rest of their lives in a shelter.
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I have no idea how accurate this is, but I'm just throwing this out there.
The Real Problem with Pit Bulls
Should they be illegal?
Debates about Pit Bulls always end up being extremely contentious because things inevitably break down into two camps.
The first camp is people who are understandably frightened of Pit Bulls because they regularly see stories like this. Incidentally, there are more Pit Bull attacks reported, and deaths caused by Pit Bulls than any other breed. There is absolutely no question that the most dangerous breed of dog in the United States is a Pit Bull.
The counterargument almost always made by Pit Bull Owners, is that “Pit Bull attacks are still very rare percentage-wise, and have you ever met my Pit Bull? She’s the sweetest, most lovable, most adorable dog I have ever met.”
Incidentally, both of these arguments have some merit.
On a personal note, almost every Pit Bull I have ever been around has been a really sweet dog. Of course, in part, that’s because if I don’t like their body language and they don’t come across as sweet and friendly, I’m not going around them or taking my dogs around them. That’s because they're still an animal, and yes, even really sweet, good-natured dogs can have a bad day under the right circumstances. For most dogs, that bad day is small potatoes. For a Pit Bull, it can mean stitches or bloody corpses.
What that means is that if you have a Pit Bull, you are taking a much bigger risk than almost any other dog owner – and quite frankly, the vast majority of dog owners are not up to the challenge. In my experience, most dog owners have about the same knowledge level I did early on with my first dog, if not less. They don’t know how to train their dogs. They don’t exercise their dogs enough. They don’t socialize their dogs enough. They really don’t understand how dogs behave and can’t read their body language. They don’t know how to lead their dog. They pass on their insecure emotional state to their dog. Once you start paying attention to it, it’s amazing how often dogs take on the personalities of their owners, whether that’s anxious, scared, or confident. This is why shelters all across America are full of Pit Bulls. People who don’t know to handle animals get them, the dog behaves badly because its owner did a poor job, and the dog spends the rest of his life in a cage until he dies of old age or gets the needle.
Having a Pit Bull? It really shouldn’t be something for a casual dog owner. You need someone who knows what they’re doing and is willing to put the time and resources into making sure that the dog is properly trained. Even then, you have a never-ending level of responsibility that other dog owners don’t have. You need to pay more attention, engage in more training, take fewer risks and be far less tolerant of bad behavior than other dog owners. My dog? Having a Catahoula Leopard Dog is almost like having a two-year-old. Having a Pit-Bull? That’s like having a four-year-old who deliberately tried to drown his sister in the pool last year and you had to explain to him why that was wrong. You THINK he understands that he shouldn’t do that again, but you’re not 100% sure. Could I handle a Pit Bull? Yes, but, it’s not a responsibility I’d want to take on.
Still, it’s a free country and yes, people should be able to own Pit Bulls if they choose. That being said, for your sake, for your children’s sake, and for the dog’s sake, make sure you are ready to take on a level of responsibility that is higher than it would be for any other dog. The world doesn’t need any more heartbroken parents, dead kids, or Pit Bulls living out the rest of their lives in a shelter.
Saying people should be allowed to own pit bulls because ‘it’s a free country’ doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. There’s plenty of things we’re not allowed to do because it’s dangerous.
When we went to the dog rescue for our dog, a good two thirds of them were pit bulls. Rather than banning them, maybe enforcing their neutering would be a better idea.
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Nephew was told he'll be receiving his dog for joint training as soon as the department gets a kennel built at his house.
Here's your trivia question for the day...He won't be getting a young puppy, but this what his dog might have looked like as a puppy...
andName that breed...
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Nephew was told he'll be receiving his dog for joint training as soon as the department gets a kennel built at his house.
Here's your trivia question for the day...He won't be getting a young puppy, but this what his dog might have looked like as a puppy...
andName that breed...
@Jolly bull mastiff?
His paws are huge compared to the rest of him, so he’s going to be big
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I have always found Dobies a bit high strung. If you want the attributes of Doberman but without the high nervous energy have a look at Rhodesian Ridgebacks. If it weren’t so damn cold here in winter I wouldn’t hesitate at getting another. Like Dobermans, Ridgebacks are follicly challenged and do not care the frigid cold -20 c or colder. Mine had a mini cordura horse blanket for the deep winter days as well as a heated dog house.
@Renauda said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
I have always found Dobies a bit high strung. If you want the attributes of Doberman but without the high nervous energy have a look at Rhodesian Ridgebacks. If it weren’t so damn cold here in winter I wouldn’t hesitate at getting another. Like Dobermans, Ridgebacks are follicly challenged and do not care the frigid cold -20 c or colder. Mine had a mini cordura horse blanket for the deep winter days as well as a heated dog house.
I always that the same notion from when I was younger -- that Dobs were temperamentally unstable. And they had that reputation, but I don't know if the breed has changed over the past few decades. The dog sites tend to not mention it. We've also thought about the RR, which is a noble and beautiful dog, but we don't know much about their temperament.
Thanks for the advice!
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@jon-nyc said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
I dated a girl with a large Pitt bull. Motherfucker was ripped too.
Was the dog muscular, too?
@Jolly said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
@jon-nyc said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
I dated a girl with a large Pitt bull. Motherfucker was ripped too.
Was the dog muscular, too?
Well he said the motherfucker was ripped, so I'm guessing the girl had kids.
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@Renauda said in I’m sure that it was because the owners were bad dog owners:
I have always found Dobies a bit high strung. If you want the attributes of Doberman but without the high nervous energy have a look at Rhodesian Ridgebacks. If it weren’t so damn cold here in winter I wouldn’t hesitate at getting another. Like Dobermans, Ridgebacks are follicly challenged and do not care the frigid cold -20 c or colder. Mine had a mini cordura horse blanket for the deep winter days as well as a heated dog house.
I always that the same notion from when I was younger -- that Dobs were temperamentally unstable. And they had that reputation, but I don't know if the breed has changed over the past few decades. The dog sites tend to not mention it. We've also thought about the RR, which is a noble and beautiful dog, but we don't know much about their temperament.
Thanks for the advice!
My RR was willing to learn and please. When a pup he was a bit hard mouthed but easily corrected. Never one to jump up like many pups and adolescent dogs. For a hound breed he was also smart. He was good with other dogs and with cats. He only barked when there was a good reason. As a guard he made his presence known but never territorial. I imagine though he would not have tolerated any harm to any member of the house.
He needed no grooming and I don’t recall him to shed much. An easy keep.
