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  • bachophileB bachophile

    Interesting thread on the Kherson front which is looking to be the next big thing in the current offensive.

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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #974

    @bachophile interesting indeed. One common theme throughout this entire war has been the utter incompetence of the Russian military. Everything from strategy, tactics to supplies has been a boondoggle.

    Is the Russian army really that incompetent?

    Reading these threads makes it sound like the Ukrainians are master strategists, but I wonder if these recent successes are simply because the Russians are so bad.

    If they are so bad, how did that happen?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Well...Iran will not recognize annexation.

      The Spokesperson of the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Nasser Kanaani, in response to journalists’ question regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran’s position on holding a referandum in Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in Ukraine and the annexation of the regions to Russia, emphasized, “The Islamic Republic of Iran, as always and based on its principled positions, emphasizes the necessity of fully observing the principle of territorial integrity of countries as a fundamental rule of international law and respecting the principles and goals of the United Nations Charter.”

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
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        #976

        Thread on how warfare has changed. It must've been @jolly who, years ago, posted about how an overwhelming number of semi-autonomous drones can disable just about anything.

        Game of Drones:

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
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          #977

          Posted the other day about an autonomous robotic armored vehicle the U.S. Army is currently testing. It's a tracked vehicle designed to keep up with and protect armored columns from drones.

          Measure/Counter-measure.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
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            #978

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • MikM Offline
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              wrote on last edited by Mik
              #979

              If this is their beefed-up professional army under Putin, it is difficult to imagine their nukes being much better. 31 years after the USSR collapsed.

              I guess the question Putin has to ask himself is 'Do I feel lucky?'.

              Well do ya, punk?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                #980

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-new-offensive-is-fueled-by-captured-russian-weapons/ar-AA12CIDc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-new-offensive-is-fueled-by-captured-russian-weapons/ar-AA12CIDc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

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                  George K
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                  #981

                  @Mik Interesting article

                  A while ago, I posted that Ukraine supposedly has more tanks now than it did at the beginning of the conflict, because of captured Russian material.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • bachophileB Offline
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                    bachophile
                    wrote on last edited by bachophile
                    #982

                    Surrender

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #983

                      You blame them?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #984

                        Hard to win a war with an army that doesn't want to fight it.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #985

                          I'll say it again - this has gone so spectacularly bad for Putin that it is quite imaginable that this is what we wanted all along. There's a whole lot of advanced military strategic and tactical thinking going into Ukraine.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
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                            #986

                            The mobilized:

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #987

                              I get it that Putin is giving Kadyrov a chance to put up or shut up. Still it shows the Russian public that Putin is scraping the barrel:

                              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/05/putin-makes-chechnyas-kadyrov-an-army-general-a78992

                              On the other hand maybe he’ll be deployed to the front where he will ingloriously die by way of a targeted Ukrainian drone or artillery ordinance. Either way I hope he dies “not well”.

                              Elbows up!

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                                He's been beating on the Chechens since he was prime minister.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  He's been beating on the Chechens since he was prime minister.

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                                  Renauda
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                                  #989

                                  @Mik

                                  Hate to say it but a lot of Chechens earned a beating. Collectively they have a bad reputation through all the former Soviet republics, not just Russia. They are particularly despised in Ukraine and Georgia.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #990

                                    It makes me suspicious of Kadyrov getting behind this obvious failure.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      It makes me suspicious of Kadyrov getting behind this obvious failure.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #991

                                      @Mik

                                      Kadyrov is a hatchet man, an assassin, one of Putin’s ethnic Capos.

                                      As I say when the time comes for him to die, he’ll die and it will not be well.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #992

                                        That would be nice.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #993

                                          You know he’ll be a target. Of NATO intelligence too.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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