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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
    wrote on last edited by
    #973

    Interesting thread on the Kherson front which is looking to be the next big thing in the current offensive.

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    • bachophileB bachophile

      Interesting thread on the Kherson front which is looking to be the next big thing in the current offensive.

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      George K
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      #974

      @bachophile interesting indeed. One common theme throughout this entire war has been the utter incompetence of the Russian military. Everything from strategy, tactics to supplies has been a boondoggle.

      Is the Russian army really that incompetent?

      Reading these threads makes it sound like the Ukrainians are master strategists, but I wonder if these recent successes are simply because the Russians are so bad.

      If they are so bad, how did that happen?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #975

        Well...Iran will not recognize annexation.

        The Spokesperson of the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Nasser Kanaani, in response to journalists’ question regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran’s position on holding a referandum in Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in Ukraine and the annexation of the regions to Russia, emphasized, “The Islamic Republic of Iran, as always and based on its principled positions, emphasizes the necessity of fully observing the principle of territorial integrity of countries as a fundamental rule of international law and respecting the principles and goals of the United Nations Charter.”

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #976

          Thread on how warfare has changed. It must've been @jolly who, years ago, posted about how an overwhelming number of semi-autonomous drones can disable just about anything.

          Game of Drones:

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #977

            Posted the other day about an autonomous robotic armored vehicle the U.S. Army is currently testing. It's a tracked vehicle designed to keep up with and protect armored columns from drones.

            Measure/Counter-measure.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #978

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by Mik
                #979

                If this is their beefed-up professional army under Putin, it is difficult to imagine their nukes being much better. 31 years after the USSR collapsed.

                I guess the question Putin has to ask himself is 'Do I feel lucky?'.

                Well do ya, punk?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #980

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-new-offensive-is-fueled-by-captured-russian-weapons/ar-AA12CIDc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-new-offensive-is-fueled-by-captured-russian-weapons/ar-AA12CIDc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

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                    George K
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                    #981

                    @Mik Interesting article

                    A while ago, I posted that Ukraine supposedly has more tanks now than it did at the beginning of the conflict, because of captured Russian material.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • bachophileB Offline
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                      bachophile
                      wrote on last edited by bachophile
                      #982

                      Surrender

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #983

                        You blame them?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #984

                          Hard to win a war with an army that doesn't want to fight it.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by Mik
                            #985

                            I'll say it again - this has gone so spectacularly bad for Putin that it is quite imaginable that this is what we wanted all along. There's a whole lot of advanced military strategic and tactical thinking going into Ukraine.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #986

                              The mobilized:

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #987

                                I get it that Putin is giving Kadyrov a chance to put up or shut up. Still it shows the Russian public that Putin is scraping the barrel:

                                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/05/putin-makes-chechnyas-kadyrov-an-army-general-a78992

                                On the other hand maybe he’ll be deployed to the front where he will ingloriously die by way of a targeted Ukrainian drone or artillery ordinance. Either way I hope he dies “not well”.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #988

                                  He's been beating on the Chechens since he was prime minister.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    He's been beating on the Chechens since he was prime minister.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #989

                                    @Mik

                                    Hate to say it but a lot of Chechens earned a beating. Collectively they have a bad reputation through all the former Soviet republics, not just Russia. They are particularly despised in Ukraine and Georgia.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #990

                                      It makes me suspicious of Kadyrov getting behind this obvious failure.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        It makes me suspicious of Kadyrov getting behind this obvious failure.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #991

                                        @Mik

                                        Kadyrov is a hatchet man, an assassin, one of Putin’s ethnic Capos.

                                        As I say when the time comes for him to die, he’ll die and it will not be well.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #992

                                          That would be nice.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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