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Biden's Lies

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  • G George K
    24 Sept 2022, 11:42

    @AndyD said in Biden's Lies:

    Everyone lies, politicians are no different, but their job seems to make lying almost necessary in order to be popular.

    Exactly. And that's why this thread exists. We had self-appointed "fact-checkers" chronicling every untrue statement that Trump made.

    Where are these people now?

    As Jim Treacher said, years ago...

    treacher_on_journalism_10-11-17-1-800x461.jpg

    We have self-driving SUVs, political murder of what someone thought was a "right wing extremist," an "elected official" released on bail (and still drawing a salary) after being arraigned for murder and no one seems to notice. Why? Because of what modern "journalism" is.

    Quick - without googling, who knows who James Hodgekinson is?

    So, yeah, they all lie. @89th was particularly vocal about Trump's lies.

    And yet, here we are.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 24 Sept 2022, 14:28 last edited by
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    @George-K said in Biden's Lies:

    So, yeah, they all lie. @89th was particularly vocal about Trump's lies.

    And yet, here we are.

    For the record, I was a lot more vocal about Trump's lies, too. Because a lot of people here denied it and that was annoying. Because c'mon, we should all know better.

    Biden's a mouthpiece and I lost any sense of neutrality with him over the Afghanistan debacle. But everyone seems to know he's a mouthpiece, so I don't complain as much. Doesn't mean I'll vote for him. I won't.

    Please love yourself.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 24 Sept 2022, 14:40 last edited by
      #143

      Yeah, but some of those things y'all decided were lies, weren't.

      Bugging Trump Tower wasn't a lie. The FBI making up Russia! Russia! Russia! wasn't a lie. The concept of a Deep State, wasn't a lie.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 25 Sept 2022, 00:42 last edited by
        #144

        Presdient Trump was like the character in the "Boy Who Cried To Wolves"

        He told so many lies, that his truths were not believed or discarded.

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          Copper
          wrote on 25 Sept 2022, 01:12 last edited by
          #145

          From Mr. Trump, how many lies were there?

          1 or 2?

          Dozens?

          Hundreds?

          Why not share a few dozen?

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            Mik
            wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:56 last edited by
            #146

            I didn't know Joe was a PR. Funny, you don't LOOK Spanish...

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-s-comments-about-puerto-ricans-have-twitter-seeing-red/ar-AA12zSXl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=698888d11f9f4b3e837f699fa063d86b

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • J Jolly
              24 Sept 2022, 14:40

              Yeah, but some of those things y'all decided were lies, weren't.

              Bugging Trump Tower wasn't a lie. The FBI making up Russia! Russia! Russia! wasn't a lie. The concept of a Deep State, wasn't a lie.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 21:00 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Biden's Lies:

              Yeah, but some of those things y'all decided were lies, weren't.

              Bugging Trump Tower wasn't a lie. The FBI making up Russia! Russia! Russia! wasn't a lie. The concept of a Deep State, wasn't a lie.

              The first two are lies, as for the third it depends on what one means by deep state.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • C Copper
                25 Sept 2022, 01:12

                From Mr. Trump, how many lies were there?

                1 or 2?

                Dozens?

                Hundreds?

                Why not share a few dozen?

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 00:58 last edited by
                #148

                @Copper said in Biden's Lies:

                Why not share a few dozen?

                Here is a database you can search for your favorite! LOL

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 01:09 last edited by
                  #149

                  Sorry, the WaPo has been shown to be acwee bit biased.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    5 Oct 2022, 01:09

                    Sorry, the WaPo has been shown to be acwee bit biased.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 01:18 last edited by
                    #150

                    @Jolly Well, lets say that 75% are biased. That still leave 8000 or so for @copper to pick his favorites from.555

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                      George K
                      wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 01:26 last edited by
                      #151

                      By the way, this thread is my contribution to doing the work that the Washington Post isn't doing.

                      You're welcome.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • T taiwan_girl
                        5 Oct 2022, 01:18

                        @Jolly Well, lets say that 75% are biased. That still leave 8000 or so for @copper to pick his favorites from.555

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 01:48 last edited by
                        #152

                        @taiwan_girl said in Biden's Lies:

                        @Jolly Well, lets say that 75% are biased. That still leave 8000 or so for @copper to pick his favorites from.555

                        TG, we addressed that page many times before… Almost all of the disputed claims were the same 20-30 that he repeated hundreds or thousands of times. The Dominion Voter Machine lie counted as 7000…

                        The Brad

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 01:54 last edited by
                          #153

                          I'm still waiting.

                          This one counts as 493 lies.

                          “We also built the greatest economy in the history of the world…Powered by these policies, we built the greatest economy in the history of the world.”

                          That is 493 lies.

                          Come on. How is that a lie? It doesn't mean anything.

                          The Post calls it a lie because they made up a definition of "greatest economy" and then made sure their definition didn't match his.

                          idiots.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 6 Oct 2022, 01:01 last edited by
                            #154

                            Empathy from POTUS.

                            Yeah, that house fire was extinguished in 20 minutes. That's EXACTLY the same as losing your entire house.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              6 Oct 2022, 01:01

                              Empathy from POTUS.

                              Yeah, that house fire was extinguished in 20 minutes. That's EXACTLY the same as losing your entire house.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 6 Oct 2022, 01:04 last edited by
                              #155

                              @George-K said in Biden's Lies:

                              Empathy from POTUS.

                              Yeah, that house fire was extinguished in 20 minutes. That's EXACTLY the same as losing your entire house.

                              Was this house his bio-home or his adopted Puerto Rican home?

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                6 Oct 2022, 01:04

                                @George-K said in Biden's Lies:

                                Empathy from POTUS.

                                Yeah, that house fire was extinguished in 20 minutes. That's EXACTLY the same as losing your entire house.

                                Was this house his bio-home or his adopted Puerto Rican home?

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                                George K
                                wrote on 6 Oct 2022, 01:20 last edited by
                                #156

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Biden's Lies:

                                his adopted Puerto Rican home

                                That was Jose' Biden's home.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 19:18 last edited by
                                  #157

                                  I suppose it's possible, but...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 19:44 last edited by
                                    #158

                                    My favorite response on that thread...

                                    "If you ever think your job sucks imagine being this guy’s sign language interpreter"

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 20:38 last edited by
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                                      I thought his talking about his son's death in Iraq was particularly poignant.

                                      Except...He didn't have a son die in Iraq...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 20:57 last edited by
                                        #160

                                        I looked into that too. He believes Beau developed his glioblastoma from being near the burn pits in Iraq. It's not an unreasonable belief.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          13 Oct 2022, 20:57

                                          I looked into that too. He believes Beau developed his glioblastoma from being near the burn pits in Iraq. It's not an unreasonable belief.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 21:04 last edited by
                                          #161

                                          @Mik

                                          https://rockymountainbrainandspineinstitute.com/burn-pits-and-brain-cancer/

                                          However in comparing military either exposed (predominately after 2001) to “burn pits” to those not exposed, there seems to be equal rates of brain tumors. No data suggests Iraq veterans developed brain cancer at any higher rate than those in earlier wars. Brain cancer prevalence was ~ 0.04% for Vietnam veterans and 0.03% for Gulf War veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

                                          But the guy who wrote this is a brain surgeon. Who you gonna trust, a neurosurgeon or POTUS?

                                          FactCheck

                                          Biden’s other main claim was his suggestion that burn pits are the reason why some veterans are developing brain cancer. There is little evidence to indicate that’s true, although scientists have not ruled out a connection.

                                          Burn pits are open areas in which trash from a military base is burned, typically because of a lack of other waste infrastructure, including incinerators. Although the U.S. military has significantly reduced the use of burn pits, they once were common throughout war zones in the Middle East and Central Asia.

                                          A 2010 Government Accountability Office report explains that before 2004, burn pits were the only method of waste management that the military used in Iraq and Afghanistan. In November 2009, the report adds, U.S. Central Command reported 50 active burn pits in Afghanistan and 67 in Iraq; by April 2010, this had changed to 184 and 52, respectively, and in August 2010, to 251 and 22.

                                          Although future studies may eventually come out to change scientific opinion, there is no direct evidence that burn pits cause brain cancer, and no indication that Iraq War veterans are especially affected by brain cancer, as Biden claimed.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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