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@George-K said in With Guns Drawn:
@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
So...If the civil suit was thrown out, and local law enforcement did not arrest him, why (besides political reasons) would the FBI do an assault on this guy's home?
Different alleged crime?
The civil suit was a tort, not part of any state or federal statute. The assault was alleged and complaint dropped. Local authorities decided that "no reasonable prosecutor" would pursue the case.
The FEDERAL allegation is on the basis of a different law - one that makes it a FEDERAL crime to interfere with access to
abortionmaternal health services.And it took them a year to build a case?
In the first place, I wonder if the shoving incident was because of trying to deny a woman access to an abortion or because the escort told Hauck's son his dad was a fag? If that is the FBI's case, that is thin gruel, indeed.
Have the Democrats opened up ppolitical war on Christians?
@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
I wonder if the shoving incident was because of trying to deny a woman access to an abortion or because the escort told Hauck's son his dad was a fag?
I commented on that. Certainly, that qualifies as a "Hate Crime," amirite?
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@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
I wonder if the shoving incident was because of trying to deny a woman access to an abortion or because the escort told Hauck's son his dad was a fag?
I commented on that. Certainly, that qualifies as a "Hate Crime," amirite?
@George-K said in With Guns Drawn:
@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
I wonder if the shoving incident was because of trying to deny a woman access to an abortion or because the escort told Hauck's son his dad was a fag?
I commented on that. Certainly, that qualifies as a "Hate Crime," amirite?
Only if a Republican sez that.
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The FBI did come out and say they didn't use a SWAT team. Only 20-25 armed agents.
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I was told (I do not know) that the FBI was established by Executive Order.
If so, maybe they can be reallocated the same way. Let the crime lab become a separate entity. Give domestic terrorism to Homeland Security, anything offshore to the CIA and law enforcement duties go back to the Marshals.
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I was told (I do not know) that the FBI was established by Executive Order.
If so, maybe they can be reallocated the same way. Let the crime lab become a separate entity. Give domestic terrorism to Homeland Security, anything offshore to the CIA and law enforcement duties go back to the Marshals.
@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
was told (I do not know) that the FBI was established by Executive Order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation
President (Theodore) Roosevelt instructed Attorney General Charles Bonaparte to organize an autonomous investigative service that would report only to the Attorney General.
Bonaparte reached out to other agencies, including the U.S. Secret Service, for personnel, investigators in particular. On May 27, 1908, Congress forbade this use of Treasury employees by the Justice Department, citing fears that the new agency would serve as a secret police department Again at Roosevelt's urging, Bonaparte moved to organize a formal Bureau of Investigation, which would then have its own staff of special agents.
The Bureau of Investigation (BOI) was created on July 26, 1908. Attorney General Bonaparte, using Department of Justice expense funds, hired thirty-four people, including some veterans of the Secret Service, to work for a new investigative agency. Its first "chief" (the title is now "director") was Stanley Finch. Bonaparte notified the Congress of these actions in December 1908.
The bureau's first official task was visiting and making surveys of the houses of prostitution in preparation for enforcing the "White Slave Traffic Act" or Mann Act, passed on June 25, 1910. In 1932, the bureau was renamed the United States Bureau of Investigation.
Creation of FBI
The following year, 1933, the BOI was linked to the Bureau of Prohibition and rechristened the Division of Investigation (DOI); it became an independent service within the Department of Justice in 1935.[18] In the same year, its name was officially changed from the Division of Investigation to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
was told (I do not know) that the FBI was established by Executive Order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation
President (Theodore) Roosevelt instructed Attorney General Charles Bonaparte to organize an autonomous investigative service that would report only to the Attorney General.
Bonaparte reached out to other agencies, including the U.S. Secret Service, for personnel, investigators in particular. On May 27, 1908, Congress forbade this use of Treasury employees by the Justice Department, citing fears that the new agency would serve as a secret police department Again at Roosevelt's urging, Bonaparte moved to organize a formal Bureau of Investigation, which would then have its own staff of special agents.
The Bureau of Investigation (BOI) was created on July 26, 1908. Attorney General Bonaparte, using Department of Justice expense funds, hired thirty-four people, including some veterans of the Secret Service, to work for a new investigative agency. Its first "chief" (the title is now "director") was Stanley Finch. Bonaparte notified the Congress of these actions in December 1908.
The bureau's first official task was visiting and making surveys of the houses of prostitution in preparation for enforcing the "White Slave Traffic Act" or Mann Act, passed on June 25, 1910. In 1932, the bureau was renamed the United States Bureau of Investigation.
Creation of FBI
The following year, 1933, the BOI was linked to the Bureau of Prohibition and rechristened the Division of Investigation (DOI); it became an independent service within the Department of Justice in 1935.[18] In the same year, its name was officially changed from the Division of Investigation to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
@George-K said in With Guns Drawn:
@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
was told (I do not know) that the FBI was established by Executive Order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation
President (Theodore) Roosevelt instructed Attorney General Charles Bonaparte to organize an autonomous investigative service that would report only to the Attorney General.
Bonaparte reached out to other agencies, including the U.S. Secret Service, for personnel, investigators in particular. On May 27, 1908, Congress forbade this use of Treasury employees by the Justice Department, citing fears that the new agency would serve as a secret police department Again at Roosevelt's urging, Bonaparte moved to organize a formal Bureau of Investigation, which would then have its own staff of special agents.
Napoleonic Law?
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@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
was told (I do not know) that the FBI was established by Executive Order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation
President (Theodore) Roosevelt instructed Attorney General Charles Bonaparte to organize an autonomous investigative service that would report only to the Attorney General.
Bonaparte reached out to other agencies, including the U.S. Secret Service, for personnel, investigators in particular. On May 27, 1908, Congress forbade this use of Treasury employees by the Justice Department, citing fears that the new agency would serve as a secret police department Again at Roosevelt's urging, Bonaparte moved to organize a formal Bureau of Investigation, which would then have its own staff of special agents.
The Bureau of Investigation (BOI) was created on July 26, 1908. Attorney General Bonaparte, using Department of Justice expense funds, hired thirty-four people, including some veterans of the Secret Service, to work for a new investigative agency. Its first "chief" (the title is now "director") was Stanley Finch. Bonaparte notified the Congress of these actions in December 1908.
The bureau's first official task was visiting and making surveys of the houses of prostitution in preparation for enforcing the "White Slave Traffic Act" or Mann Act, passed on June 25, 1910. In 1932, the bureau was renamed the United States Bureau of Investigation.
Creation of FBI
The following year, 1933, the BOI was linked to the Bureau of Prohibition and rechristened the Division of Investigation (DOI); it became an independent service within the Department of Justice in 1935.[18] In the same year, its name was officially changed from the Division of Investigation to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
@George-K said in With Guns Drawn:
@Jolly said in With Guns Drawn:
was told (I do not know) that the FBI was established by Executive Order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation
President (Theodore) Roosevelt instructed Attorney General Charles Bonaparte to organize an autonomous investigative service that would report only to the Attorney General.
Bonaparte reached out to other agencies, including the U.S. Secret Service, for personnel, investigators in particular. On May 27, 1908, Congress forbade this use of Treasury employees by the Justice Department, citing fears that the new agency would serve as a secret police department Again at Roosevelt's urging, Bonaparte moved to organize a formal Bureau of Investigation, which would then have its own staff of special agents.
The Bureau of Investigation (BOI) was created on July 26, 1908. Attorney General Bonaparte, using Department of Justice expense funds, hired thirty-four people, including some veterans of the Secret Service, to work for a new investigative agency. Its first "chief" (the title is now "director") was Stanley Finch. Bonaparte notified the Congress of these actions in December 1908.
The bureau's first official task was visiting and making surveys of the houses of prostitution in preparation for enforcing the "White Slave Traffic Act" or Mann Act, passed on June 25, 1910. In 1932, the bureau was renamed the United States Bureau of Investigation.
Creation of FBI
The following year, 1933, the BOI was linked to the Bureau of Prohibition and rechristened the Division of Investigation (DOI); it became an independent service within the Department of Justice in 1935.[18] In the same year, its name was officially changed from the Division of Investigation to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
Then maybe they can be reorganized.
They need something. Their culture has become toxic and out of control. I thought Ruby Ridge and the Koresh debacle would have reigned them in, but they've gotten worse.
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The guy had offered to come in voluntarily.
Three months before they raided his home with guns drawn.
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Oh, it gets better ...
The Philadelphia DA (no big pro-lifer) investigated and found not enough evidence to bring charges. And ... The plaintiff in the civil suit did not show up in court. Multiple occasions, which is why the suit was dismissed
I heard Hauck's lawyer interviewed this evening and he stated he had contacted the FBI after learning they were considering charges, and offered to bring his client in to talk. They said no. This was three months before the raid.
Hauck has a clean record. He has never shown any tendency to violence.
This is a travesty and a miscarriage of justice. It is an abuse of office.
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"The surveillance video, which was shown on Sean Hannity’s Monday evening broadcast, revealed several important things. For instance, we see that Houck was not at the entrance of the abortion facility and appears to be more than 100 feet away, which is one of the stipulations of the FACE Act. Further, it is clear that the “escort” walked all the way down the sidewalk by himself in order to threaten Houck’s son. The pro-abortion activist was not escorting anyone."
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The FACE Act has a large element of horseshit to it to begin with.
This man should have never been charged. I can't believe Garland did this without a large shove from the Whitehouse. At one point in time, I felt just a tad bit sorry for him, because the Murder Turtle killed his SCOTUS seat in political payback.
It may be the best thing Mitch ever did...
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Ah, here it is...
Link to video“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
