Alec Baldwin what the fuck
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wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 12:31 last edited by
The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office released a trove of evidence in the case on Monday, which provided deeper insight into how the tragedy unfolded. Video from the release shows Baldwin rehearsing the scene where he shot Hutchins. The office told The Reload the footage does not include the fatal shot.
However, it does provide critical information on how the negligent discharge likely happened. The video shows Baldwin repeatedly drawing his gun while rehearsing a scene. It shows Baldwin clearly had his finger on the revolver’s trigger as he practiced the draw. In the last take of the video, he can be seen pulling the hammer back and releasing it while he has his finger on the trigger. The hammer clearly falls forward after being released.
As I said back in December, this was always the most likely scenario to explain how the gun fired. On a single-action revolver like the one Baldwin used, the hammer will catch on a series of sears when pulled back. However, depressing the trigger while pulling the hammer back will cause it to bypass those sears. If pulled back far enough before being released while the trigger is depressed, it could cause a live round in the cylinder to fire.
Baldwin has claimed he “didn’t pull the trigger.” However, his description of the shooting makes that hard to believe.
“I cock the gun. I go, ‘Can you see that? Can you see that? Can you see that?’” Baldwin told ABC. “And then I let go of the hammer of the gun, and the gun goes off. I let go of the hammer of the gun, the gun goes off.”
This is not possible without a severe mechanical defect in the gun or, more likely, the trigger being depressed. While it’s possible Baldwin kept his finger off the trigger during the shot, the video strongly suggests it’s unlikely. He had his finger on the trigger in these takes. He probably did during the final shot as well.
Baldwin may believe that, while his finger was on the trigger, he didn’t “pull” it. But it does not take much force to keep the trigger on a single-action revolver depressed enough to drop the sears which would otherwise catch a cocked hammer from engaging. That’s exactly what can be seen at the end of the rehearsal video.
Of course, this is only one part of the equation for what went horribly wrong on that set.
The presence of live ammunition on set, the failure of anyone who handled the gun to properly check whether it was unloaded, and the decision to film a shot with crew in the firing line of a real gun all contributed to the disaster. Multiple people had to fail in their obligation to ensure the production was safe for this to happen. It was never just one person making one mistake.
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wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 21:17 last edited by
Alec Baldwin may soon be criminally charged
DA Mary Carmack-Altwies filed an emergency request for $635,500, funds she says are necessary to prosecute up to four people in connection with the accident. The Los Angeles Times obtained a letter in which Carmack-Altwies lays out that her office is considering homicide charges, as well as gun violations, against four individuals.
"During the filming of [Rust], Alec Baldwin shot and killed Halyna Hutchins and injured Joel Souza while rehearsing a scene. Many individuals had handled the gun that ultimately killed Hutchins and injured [director Joel] Souza," Carmack-Altwies wrote in the request, which was also obtained by the New York Post.
Carmack-Altwies notes that "one of the possible defendants is well known movie actor Alec Baldwin."
"Since October of [2021], my office has been waiting for evidence to be examined by the FBI. The results of the investigation have now been returned to my office. Only a few items are outstanding but are expected any day," Carmack-Altwies adds. The DA's office was granted $317,750 for a potential prosecution.
Baldwin's lawyer tells Yahoo Entertainment it's premature to speculate that the actor could be criminally charged.
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wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 21:47 last edited by
This has always seemed so inexplicable to me, short of an intentional effort on someone’s part to create a tragedy.
How could you confuse live rounds with blanks?
I wouldn’t think they’re even sold in the same places.
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This has always seemed so inexplicable to me, short of an intentional effort on someone’s part to create a tragedy.
How could you confuse live rounds with blanks?
I wouldn’t think they’re even sold in the same places.
wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 21:51 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
This has always seemed so inexplicable to me, short of an intentional effort on someone’s part to create a tragedy.
How could you confuse live rounds with blanks?
I wouldn’t think they’re even sold in the same places.
- You're not talking about the most gun-savvy people here. Most actors have atrocious shooting skills (Seagal and Keneau not among them). They go with what you hand them.
- It's the weapons master's job to make sure there are no live rounds on the set. There were.
As I've said from the get-go, this is a civil case, not criminal.
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wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 22:06 last edited by jon-nyc
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
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wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 22:14 last edited by
According to what has been pieces together so far, the ammo supplier made the first mistake including live ammo in boxes of blanks. Then who knows how many mistakes by how many people were made thereafter with not double checking.
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Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 22:15 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
On who's part?
Not Baldwin's.
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@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
On who's part?
Not Baldwin's.
wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 22:43 last edited by@Jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
On who's part?
Not Baldwin's.
Don’t forget that Baldwin’s culpability goes beyond being an actor. As producer he could be held responsible.
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@Jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
On who's part?
Not Baldwin's.
Don’t forget that Baldwin’s culpability goes beyond being an actor. As producer he could be held responsible.
wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 22:49 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@Jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
On who's part?
Not Baldwin's.
Don’t forget that Baldwin’s culpability goes beyond being an actor. As producer he could be held responsible.
It would have to be recklessness or negligence. I think since he is not the one responsible for the prop gun and has hired a person to take care of those details, negligence is a high hill to climb.
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@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
On who's part?
Not Baldwin's.
wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 23:08 last edited by@Jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Negligent homicide is a crime.
I don’t know what the standard for it is in CA, but I could easily imagine this rising to it. Perhaps for more than one person on the set.
On who's part?
Depends on the details. You’d need an investigation to answer that.
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@jon-nyc said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
This has always seemed so inexplicable to me, short of an intentional effort on someone’s part to create a tragedy.
How could you confuse live rounds with blanks?
I wouldn’t think they’re even sold in the same places.
- You're not talking about the most gun-savvy people here. Most actors have atrocious shooting skills (Seagal and Keneau not among them). They go with what you hand them.
- It's the weapons master's job to make sure there are no live rounds on the set. There were.
As I've said from the get-go, this is a civil case, not criminal.
wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 00:46 last edited by@Jolly said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
Most actors have atrocious shooting skills (Seagal and Keneau not among them).
To be fair, Seagal makes up for it by having atrocious acting skills.
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wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 00:56 last edited by
No argument.
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wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 01:35 last edited by
He has a lot to teach us about Native American mysticism.
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wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 16:05 last edited by
@Horace He is fluent in Japanese (though I am not sure that makes up for his bad acting. LOL)
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@Horace He is fluent in Japanese (though I am not sure that makes up for his bad acting. LOL)
wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 16:06 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@Horace He is fluent in Japanese (though I am not sure that makes up for his bad acting. LOL)
If you’re taking his word for that, my guess is that he is not fluent is Japanese.
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@taiwan_girl said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@Horace He is fluent in Japanese (though I am not sure that makes up for his bad acting. LOL)
If you’re taking his word for that, my guess is that he is not fluent is Japanese.
wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 16:29 last edited by@Horace said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@taiwan_girl said in Alec Baldwin what the fuck:
@Horace He is fluent in Japanese (though I am not sure that makes up for his bad acting. LOL)
If you’re taking his word for that, my guess is that he is not fluent is Japanese.
Well, I am not sure, but I was in Japan one time and looking through the channels, and there he was being interviewed in Japanese.
So, he is kind of fluent or he is a much much better actor than any of us realized! 555
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wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 16:51 last edited by
He's barely fluent in English.
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wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 16:58 last edited by
Alec Baldwin and the production team of “Rust” reached a settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit of Halyna Hutchins on Wednesday. In the agreement, the movie established a date to return to production, and got a new executive producer — Hutchins’ widowed husband.
Halyna Hutchins, the film’s cinematographer, was killed on the set of the film nearly a year ago, after Baldwin fired a prop gun he was told was “cold.” The incident prompted a widespread investigation, and Hutchins’ family filed their lawsuit back in February.
Alec Baldwin Explains How Gun Went Off Even If He Did Not ‘Pull the Trigger’ in Fatal ‘Rust’ Shooting (Video)
“We have reached a settlement, subject to court approval, for our wrongful death case against the producers of Rust, including Alec Baldwin and Rust Movie Productions, LLC. As part of that settlement, our case will be dismissed,” Matthew Hutchins, husband of Halyna Hutchins, said via his attorney Brian Panish of Panish | Shea | Boyle | Ravipudi LLP.
He continued: “The filming of Rust, which I will now executive produce, will resume with all the original principal players on board in January 2023. I have no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame (to the producers or Mr. Baldwin). All of us believe Halyna’s death was a terrible accident. I am grateful that the producers and the entertainment community have come together to pay tribute to Halyna’s final work.”
The settlement comes just a few weeks after a hearing in which a New Mexico district attorney said that her office could be close to charging up to four people in the incident with criminal charges relating to homicide.
Alec Baldwin’s ‘Rust’ Shooting Case: New Mexico Prosecutors Hint at Homicide Charges in Funding Request
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wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 18:59 last edited by
Ew.
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wrote on 6 Oct 2022, 12:18 last edited by
‘No impact’ on criminal case: DA
“The proposed settlement announced today in Matthew Hutchins’ wrongful death case against Rust movie producers, including Alec Baldwin, in the death of Halyna Hutchins will have no impact on District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies’ ongoing investigation or her ultimate decision whether to file criminal charges in the case,” said Heather Brewer, spokesperson for the Santa Fe District Attorney’s Office in New Mexico, in a statement shortly after news of the settlement was announced.
“While civil suits are settled privately and often involve financial awards, criminal cases deal only in facts. If the facts and evidence warrant criminal charges under New Mexico law then charges will be brought,” the statement continues.
“No one is above the law,” it warned.
