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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #642

    Special Master wants proof that Trump declassified the documents in question.

    Trump attorneys had told the judge in a letter Monday night they didn't want to disclose that information yet because it could force them to prematurely "disclose a defense to the merits of any subsequent indictment. "Dearie (the SM) said, "You can't have your cake and eat it too."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/special-master-mar-lago-case-appears-skeptical-trump-declassification-rcna48606

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Axtremus
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      #643

      https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/20/politics/trump-save-america-pac-legal-payments-surge/index.html

      Spending by Donald Trump's Save America PAC surged in August to more than $6.3 million -- its highest monthly total of the year -- as the former President waged court battles over the FBI's search of his waterfront Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.

      More than $3.8 million of that money -- or more than $6 out of $10 spent by Trump's leadership PAC last month -- went to legal fees, according to filings Tuesday night with the Federal Election Commission. The largest legal expense was a single payment of $3 million to the trust account of a West Palm Beach, Florida, law firm.
      …

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #644

        What an idiot. Why didn’t he just turn over the documents when asked? Or even subpoenaed?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          What an idiot. Why didn’t he just turn over the documents when asked? Or even subpoenaed?

          taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on last edited by
          #645

          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          What an idiot. Why didn’t he just turn over the documents when asked? Or even subpoenaed?

          Yes, I agree. I am trying to think reasonably, and having trouble coming up with a reason why he would not do it, other than him having a "god complex" and thinks he is above everybody else.

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          • Catseye3C Offline
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            Catseye3
            wrote on last edited by Catseye3
            #646

            The story! The story!

            He's doing the same thing he did in 2015. He knew he was not a big known, so he made his own publicity, threw his stunts to capture press attention. He didn't give a crap about John McCain, but you couldn't put a price on the outrage factor when he ridiculed his POW history. He did that enough until he had his audience, and then he milked it with messages they wanted to hear.

            He isn't a master salesman for nothing.

            Has anyone in the media speculated (or showed that they knew) why Trump took the documents in the first place?

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              The story! The story!

              He's doing the same thing he did in 2015. He knew he was not a big known, so he made his own publicity, threw his stunts to capture press attention. He didn't give a crap about John McCain, but you couldn't put a price on the outrage factor when he ridiculed his POW history. He did that enough until he had his audience, and then he milked it with messages they wanted to hear.

              He isn't a master salesman for nothing.

              Has anyone in the media speculated (or showed that they knew) why Trump took the documents in the first place?

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #647

              @Catseye3 Hard to even speculate without knowing the contents of the docs.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Catseye3 Hard to even speculate without knowing the contents of the docs.

                Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by
                #648

                @jon-nyc

                I bet somebody somewhere knows.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

                89th8 1 Reply Last reply
                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #649

                  A bunch of FBI agents do.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #650

                    If they don't, they'll just make it up.

                    JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      @jon-nyc

                      I bet somebody somewhere knows.

                      89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      #651

                      @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      @jon-nyc

                      I bet somebody somewhere knows.

                      I had dinner last night with a friend who is…well connected at DOJ. Like really well connected. First thing he said was joking-serious…don’t ask him about what he knows about mar-a-lago. 😂

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        @jon-nyc

                        I bet somebody somewhere knows.

                        I had dinner last night with a friend who is…well connected at DOJ. Like really well connected. First thing he said was joking-serious…don’t ask him about what he knows about mar-a-lago. 😂

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #652

                        @89th said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        don’t ask him about what he knows about mar-a-lago.

                        You shouldn't ask me what I know, either.

                        I was only joking

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          If they don't, they'll just make it up.

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #653

                          @Copper said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          If they don't, they'll just make it up.

                          Or forge it.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                            #654

                            You know you’re in a cult when you think the idea that the leader is innocent is not falsifiable, even when the crime is entirely in character.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #655

                              You know you're in a cult, when you don't care that your nation's justice system has been perverted.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                You know you're in a cult, when you don't care that your nation's justice system has been perverted.

                                jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #656

                                @Jolly

                                I’m perverted, and I never see the justice system at the meetings.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • AxtremusA Offline
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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #657

                                  It’s now in Jedi mind trick territory!

                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

                                  …
                                  Speaking on Fox News’ “Hannity,” Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.

                                  "There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."
                                  …

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    It’s now in Jedi mind trick territory!

                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

                                    …
                                    Speaking on Fox News’ “Hannity,” Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.

                                    "There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."
                                    …

                                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #658

                                    He’s such a whiney shitbag.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • Catseye3C Offline
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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #659

                                      And so presidential.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #660

                                        And living in your head. Rent free!

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • AxtremusA Offline
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                                          Axtremus
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                                          #661

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/21/mar-a-lago-appeal-court-ruling/

                                          Appeals court: Justice Dept. can use Mar-a-Lago documents in criminal probe
                                          
Federal appeals panel says Judge Aileen Cannon ‘abused’ her discretion in requiring outside review of seized classified documents

                                          The opinion: https://docs-cdn-prod.news-engineering.aws.wapo.pub/publish_document/dd14f429-6a6e-47a1-9059-6190db2df638/published/dd14f429-6a6e-47a1-9059-6190db2df638.pdf

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