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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
    #27

    If the law says you have to do something, then doing it becomes essentially meaningless, at least on an individual basis.

    I was only joking

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    • CopperC Copper

      @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

      So who is it disrespectful to?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#:~:text=When the U.S. national anthem,attention%2C men removing their hats.

      It's the law

      When the U.S. national anthem was first recognized by law in 1931, there was no prescription as to behavior during its playing. On June 22, 1942, the law was revised indicating that those in uniform should salute during its playing, while others should simply stand at attention, men removing their hats. The same code also required that women should place their hands over their hearts when the flag is displayed during the playing of the national anthem, but not if the flag was not present. On December 23, 1942, the law was again revised instructing men and women to stand at attention and face in the direction of the music when it was played. That revision also directed men and women to place their hands over their hearts only if the flag was displayed. Those in uniform were required to salute. On July 7, 1976, the law was simplified. Men and women were instructed to stand with their hands over their hearts, men removing their hats, irrespective of whether or not the flag was displayed and those in uniform saluting. On August 12, 1998, the law was rewritten keeping the same instructions, but differentiating between "those in uniform" and "members of the Armed Forces and veterans" who were both instructed to salute during the playing whether or not the flag was displayed.

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #28

      @Copper said in The NFL:

      @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

      So who is it disrespectful to?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#:~:text=When the U.S. national anthem,attention%2C men removing their hats.

      It's the law

      When the U.S. national anthem was first recognized by law in 1931, there was no prescription as to behavior during its playing. On June 22, 1942, the law was revised indicating that those in uniform should salute during its playing, while others should simply stand at attention, men removing their hats. The same code also required that women should place their hands over their hearts when the flag is displayed during the playing of the national anthem, but not if the flag was not present. On December 23, 1942, the law was again revised instructing men and women to stand at attention and face in the direction of the music when it was played. That revision also directed men and women to place their hands over their hearts only if the flag was displayed. Those in uniform were required to salute. On July 7, 1976, the law was simplified. Men and women were instructed to stand with their hands over their hearts, men removing their hats, irrespective of whether or not the flag was displayed and those in uniform saluting. On August 12, 1998, the law was rewritten keeping the same instructions, but differentiating between "those in uniform" and "members of the Armed Forces and veterans" who were both instructed to salute during the playing whether or not the flag was displayed.

      I'm so glad that you brought that up. It carries the same weight as the US Flag Code -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

      The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding or drapery
      The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever.
      It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

      How many people bitching about the Kaepernick Protest wear Flag T-Shirts or Hats, Have Flag napkins and plates for the 4th of July and tailgating, and likely have flag pillows?

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #29

        This is far more offensive to me -

        Link to video

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Copper said in The NFL:

          @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

          So who is it disrespectful to?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#:~:text=When the U.S. national anthem,attention%2C men removing their hats.

          It's the law

          When the U.S. national anthem was first recognized by law in 1931, there was no prescription as to behavior during its playing. On June 22, 1942, the law was revised indicating that those in uniform should salute during its playing, while others should simply stand at attention, men removing their hats. The same code also required that women should place their hands over their hearts when the flag is displayed during the playing of the national anthem, but not if the flag was not present. On December 23, 1942, the law was again revised instructing men and women to stand at attention and face in the direction of the music when it was played. That revision also directed men and women to place their hands over their hearts only if the flag was displayed. Those in uniform were required to salute. On July 7, 1976, the law was simplified. Men and women were instructed to stand with their hands over their hearts, men removing their hats, irrespective of whether or not the flag was displayed and those in uniform saluting. On August 12, 1998, the law was rewritten keeping the same instructions, but differentiating between "those in uniform" and "members of the Armed Forces and veterans" who were both instructed to salute during the playing whether or not the flag was displayed.

          I'm so glad that you brought that up. It carries the same weight as the US Flag Code -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

          The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding or drapery
          The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever.
          It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

          How many people bitching about the Kaepernick Protest wear Flag T-Shirts or Hats, Have Flag napkins and plates for the 4th of July and tailgating, and likely have flag pillows?

          CopperC Offline
          CopperC Offline
          Copper
          wrote on last edited by
          #30

          @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

          @Copper said in The NFL:

          @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

          So who is it disrespectful to?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#:~:text=When the U.S. national anthem,attention%2C men removing their hats.

          It's the law

          When the U.S. national anthem was first recognized by law in 1931, there was no prescription as to behavior during its playing. On June 22, 1942, the law was revised indicating that those in uniform should salute during its playing, while others should simply stand at attention, men removing their hats. The same code also required that women should place their hands over their hearts when the flag is displayed during the playing of the national anthem, but not if the flag was not present. On December 23, 1942, the law was again revised instructing men and women to stand at attention and face in the direction of the music when it was played. That revision also directed men and women to place their hands over their hearts only if the flag was displayed. Those in uniform were required to salute. On July 7, 1976, the law was simplified. Men and women were instructed to stand with their hands over their hearts, men removing their hats, irrespective of whether or not the flag was displayed and those in uniform saluting. On August 12, 1998, the law was rewritten keeping the same instructions, but differentiating between "those in uniform" and "members of the Armed Forces and veterans" who were both instructed to salute during the playing whether or not the flag was displayed.

          I'm so glad that you brought that up. It carries the same weight as the US Flag Code -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

          The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding or drapery
          The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever.
          It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

          How many people bitching about the Kaepernick Protest wear Flag T-Shirts or Hats, Have Flag napkins and plates for the 4th of July and tailgating, and likely have flag pillows?

          I'm simply answering the question about who is it disrespectful to.

          If someone wants to show disrespect, that is their choice.

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          • CopperC Copper

            @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

            @Copper said in The NFL:

            @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

            So who is it disrespectful to?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#:~:text=When the U.S. national anthem,attention%2C men removing their hats.

            It's the law

            When the U.S. national anthem was first recognized by law in 1931, there was no prescription as to behavior during its playing. On June 22, 1942, the law was revised indicating that those in uniform should salute during its playing, while others should simply stand at attention, men removing their hats. The same code also required that women should place their hands over their hearts when the flag is displayed during the playing of the national anthem, but not if the flag was not present. On December 23, 1942, the law was again revised instructing men and women to stand at attention and face in the direction of the music when it was played. That revision also directed men and women to place their hands over their hearts only if the flag was displayed. Those in uniform were required to salute. On July 7, 1976, the law was simplified. Men and women were instructed to stand with their hands over their hearts, men removing their hats, irrespective of whether or not the flag was displayed and those in uniform saluting. On August 12, 1998, the law was rewritten keeping the same instructions, but differentiating between "those in uniform" and "members of the Armed Forces and veterans" who were both instructed to salute during the playing whether or not the flag was displayed.

            I'm so glad that you brought that up. It carries the same weight as the US Flag Code -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

            The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding or drapery
            The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever.
            It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

            How many people bitching about the Kaepernick Protest wear Flag T-Shirts or Hats, Have Flag napkins and plates for the 4th of July and tailgating, and likely have flag pillows?

            I'm simply answering the question about who is it disrespectful to.

            If someone wants to show disrespect, that is their choice.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #31

            @Copper That doesn't say anything about who it's disrespectful to. That's just saying it's against a rule or law.

            The Brad

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #32

              We don't get to choose who they're actually being disrespectful to, that's between them and their own inner thoughts.

              Somebody can choose to kneel during the anthem and not mean any disrespect to the military. Deciding that somebody kneeling at the beginning of a football game is insulting WW2 veterans is an interpretative act of the observer.

              I was only joking

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Copper That doesn't say anything about who it's disrespectful to. That's just saying it's against a rule or law.

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
                #33

                @LuFins-Dad said in The NFL:

                @Copper That doesn't say anything about who it's disrespectful to. That's just saying it's against a rule or law.

                It is disrespectful of the law.

                Is this some kind of trick? The flag is not a person.

                Of course if some person asked you to behave properly in regard to the flag and you did not then you would be disrespecting that person.

                In Kap's case it was an anti-police gesture. He has occasionally denied this and affirmed this, but that was clearly part of his initial act.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #34

                  👆

                  Please love yourself.

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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #35

                    Dont the football players have a flag decal on the helmet they wear?

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                          Idiots

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