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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #783

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #784

      Gradually then suddenly…..

      https://samf.substack.com/p/gradually-then-suddenly?r=17wfy3&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

      Elbows up!

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #785

        "We are 'regrouping.'"

        He spelled "retreating" wrong...

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
          George KG Offline
          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #786

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
            George KG Offline
            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #787

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #788

              image.jpeg

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 9 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                "Ukrainian forces have captured an estimated 2,500 square kilometers in Kharkiv Oblast in the Kharkiv area counteroffensive as of September 9. Ukrainian

                "President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhnyi stated on September 8 that Ukrainian forces liberated over 1,000 square kilometers between September 1-8 – a day before Ukrainian forces reached the southern approach to Kupyansk and the Oskil River on September 9.[1] Ukrainian forces are likely clearing pockets of disorganized Russian forces caught in the rapid Ukrainian advance to Kupyansk, Izyum, and the Oskil River, given the influx of observed pictures of Russian prisoners of war in the past 48 hours."

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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by
                #789

                From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 10 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                "The Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkiv Oblast is routing Russian forces and collapsing Russia’s northern Donbas axis. Russian forces are not conducting a controlled withdrawal and are hurriedly fleeing southeastern Kharkiv Oblast to escape encirclement around Izyum.

                Just as Renauda foresaw.

                "Russian forces have previously weakened the northern Donbas axis by redeploying units from this area to Southern Ukraine, complicating efforts to slow the Ukrainian advance or at minimum deploy a covering force for the retreat.

                "Ukrainian forces have penetrated Russian lines to a depth of up to 70 kilometers in some places and captured over 3,000 square kilometers of territory in the past five days since September 6 – more territory than Russian forces have captured in all their operations since April."

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 10 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                  "The Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkiv Oblast is routing Russian forces and collapsing Russia’s northern Donbas axis. Russian forces are not conducting a controlled withdrawal and are hurriedly fleeing southeastern Kharkiv Oblast to escape encirclement around Izyum.

                  Just as Renauda foresaw.

                  "Russian forces have previously weakened the northern Donbas axis by redeploying units from this area to Southern Ukraine, complicating efforts to slow the Ukrainian advance or at minimum deploy a covering force for the retreat.

                  "Ukrainian forces have penetrated Russian lines to a depth of up to 70 kilometers in some places and captured over 3,000 square kilometers of territory in the past five days since September 6 – more territory than Russian forces have captured in all their operations since April."

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #790

                  @Catseye3 the Institute for the Study of War's assessments have always struck me as, though probably objective, as very restrained and careful. Not that that's a bad thing of course.

                  But to read words like "routing," "collapsing," "not a controlled withdrawal," and "hurriedly fleeing" is amazing.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #791

                    Wielding Excalibur...

                    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-08/most-accurate-us-artillery-shell-is-quietly-added-to-ukraine-aid?sref=IYQ5mP1s&leadSource=uverify wall

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #792

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #793

                        Ukraine breaks through to Russian border

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/situation-more-difficult-by-the-hour-ukrainian-forces-break-through-to-russian-border-live-updates/ar-AA11JlD5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8bd1cd790179489b80018fbb45de41d5#interstitial=1

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 10 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "The Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkiv Oblast is routing Russian forces and collapsing Russia’s northern Donbas axis. Russian forces are not conducting a controlled withdrawal and are hurriedly fleeing southeastern Kharkiv Oblast to escape encirclement around Izyum.

                          Just as Renauda foresaw.

                          "Russian forces have previously weakened the northern Donbas axis by redeploying units from this area to Southern Ukraine, complicating efforts to slow the Ukrainian advance or at minimum deploy a covering force for the retreat.

                          "Ukrainian forces have penetrated Russian lines to a depth of up to 70 kilometers in some places and captured over 3,000 square kilometers of territory in the past five days since September 6 – more territory than Russian forces have captured in all their operations since April."

                          Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                          #794

                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 11 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "Ukrainian forces have inflicted a major operational defeat on Russia, recapturing almost all Kharkiv Oblast in a rapid counter-offensive. The Ukrainian success resulted from skillful campaign design and execution from the brilliant Canadian war strategist Renauda -- "

                          No, wait. Correction:

                          " -- from skillful campaign design and execution that included efforts to maximize the impact of Western weapons systems such as HIMARS."

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

                          RenaudaR Catseye3C 2 Replies Last reply
                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 11 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                            "Ukrainian forces have inflicted a major operational defeat on Russia, recapturing almost all Kharkiv Oblast in a rapid counter-offensive. The Ukrainian success resulted from skillful campaign design and execution from the brilliant Canadian war strategist Renauda -- "

                            No, wait. Correction:

                            " -- from skillful campaign design and execution that included efforts to maximize the impact of Western weapons systems such as HIMARS."

                            RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #795

                            @Catseye3

                            Thank you but I do not for a minute believe I predicted or suggested anything other than call it as I see it. Best to leave this retired former subaltern reservist out of it, although I have been doing volunteer work here with other grey haired former reservists collecting medical supplies and clothing for shipment to Ukraine.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              @Catseye3

                              Thank you but I do not for a minute believe I predicted or suggested anything other than call it as I see it. Best to leave this retired former subaltern reservist out of it, although I have been doing volunteer work here with other grey haired former reservists collecting medical supplies and clothing for shipment to Ukraine.

                              Catseye3C Offline
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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #796

                              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              although I have been doing volunteer work here with other grey haired former reservists collecting medical supplies and clothing for shipment to Ukraine.

                              That's great. Good for you, to help relieve shortages.

                              And I intended no offense. Just thought I'd give you a chuckle.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                although I have been doing volunteer work here with other grey haired former reservists collecting medical supplies and clothing for shipment to Ukraine.

                                That's great. Good for you, to help relieve shortages.

                                And I intended no offense. Just thought I'd give you a chuckle.

                                RenaudaR Offline
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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #797

                                @Catseye3

                                No offence taken and I understood and appreciated it to be tongue in cheek.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #798

                                  Good on ya for your efforts on behalf of Ukraine.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Ukraine breaks through to Russian border

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/situation-more-difficult-by-the-hour-ukrainian-forces-break-through-to-russian-border-live-updates/ar-AA11JlD5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8bd1cd790179489b80018fbb45de41d5#interstitial=1

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #799

                                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Ukraine breaks through to Russian border

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/situation-more-difficult-by-the-hour-ukrainian-forces-break-through-to-russian-border-live-updates/ar-AA11JlD5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8bd1cd790179489b80018fbb45de41d5#interstitial=1

                                    That might be bad if they keep going. Especially since they've been armed by basically the entire West.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #800

                                      They won't. There's still a lot of Ukraine to take back.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        They won't. There's still a lot of Ukraine to take back.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #801

                                        @Mik

                                        I agree they will not and nor can they afford to cross that border. The Russians will do everything possible however to provoke a border incursion. They will also more than likely claim a border violation in the coming days.

                                        Already I am hearing that Russian media is claiming that now the whole special operation was from the outset a response to Ukrainian violations of Russian border regions.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #802

                                          Putin has really taken Russia into a deep, dark hole.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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