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  • L LuFins Dad
    17 Aug 2022, 14:22

    @89th said in Cheney Crushed:

    @Jolly said in Cheney Crushed:

    Sometimes, you lurch into idiotdom.

    Cheney may be the Darling of Northern Virginia, but she's DOA in a Republican primary in most states.

    I'm not saying she would win, I would just like to see more politicians like her.

    Ones that forego standard jurisprudence, doesn’t believe the accused should be allowed cross examination or to present their own evidence? You would like to see more of that?

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    89th
    wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 15:03 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Cheney Crushed:

    @89th said in Cheney Crushed:

    @Jolly said in Cheney Crushed:

    Sometimes, you lurch into idiotdom.

    Cheney may be the Darling of Northern Virginia, but she's DOA in a Republican primary in most states.

    I'm not saying she would win, I would just like to see more politicians like her.

    Ones that forego standard jurisprudence, doesn’t believe the accused should be allowed cross examination or to present their own evidence? You would like to see more of that?

    Yup! You totally read my mind. It's almost like we can finish each other's

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    • J Jolly
      17 Aug 2022, 14:51

      @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

      She had an interview on a national tv show this morning where she indicated she may pursue the presidency.

      She wants it so bad, she can taste it.

      If she had voted to impeach Trump, then shut her mouth and not stepped all over the national messaging of the GOP, she might have had a chance in the future. I think she's shit in the bed on any future aspirations.

      In politics, though, never say never.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 15:06 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Cheney Crushed:

      @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

      She had an interview on a national tv show this morning where she indicated she may pursue the presidency.

      She wants it so bad, she can taste it.

      If she had voted to impeach Trump, then shut her mouth and not stepped all over the national messaging of the GOP, she might have had a chance in the future. I think she's shit in the bed on any future aspirations.

      In politics, though, never say never.

      If the national messaging of the GOP had been policy based rather than assuaging a butt-hurt fragile loser she would have fine too.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • J jon-nyc
        17 Aug 2022, 15:06

        @Jolly said in Cheney Crushed:

        @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

        She had an interview on a national tv show this morning where she indicated she may pursue the presidency.

        She wants it so bad, she can taste it.

        If she had voted to impeach Trump, then shut her mouth and not stepped all over the national messaging of the GOP, she might have had a chance in the future. I think she's shit in the bed on any future aspirations.

        In politics, though, never say never.

        If the national messaging of the GOP had been policy based rather than assuaging a butt-hurt fragile loser she would have fine too.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 15:07 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Cheney Crushed:

        @Jolly said in Cheney Crushed:

        @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

        She had an interview on a national tv show this morning where she indicated she may pursue the presidency.

        She wants it so bad, she can taste it.

        If she had voted to impeach Trump, then shut her mouth and not stepped all over the national messaging of the GOP, she might have had a chance in the future. I think she's shit in the bed on any future aspirations.

        In politics, though, never say never.

        If the national messaging of the GOP had been policy based rather than assuaging a butt-hurt fragile loser she would have fine too.

        That's your opinion.

        It is not the opinion of GOP leadership trying to craft a message in opposition to Mr. Biden's policies he was trying to get through Congress.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jolly
          wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 15:24 last edited by
          #22

          28.9%.

          That's a whuppin'...

          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wyoming-2022-primary-results

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • 8 89th
            17 Aug 2022, 14:09

            @Jolly said in Cheney Crushed:

            Sometimes, you lurch into idiotdom.

            Cheney may be the Darling of Northern Virginia, but she's DOA in a Republican primary in most states.

            I'm not saying she would win, I would just like to see more politicians like her.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 15:53 last edited by Renauda
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            @89th said in Cheney Crushed:

            @Jolly said in Cheney Crushed:

            Sometimes, you lurch into idiotdom.

            Cheney may be the Darling of Northern Virginia, but she's DOA in a Republican primary in most states.

            I'm not saying she would win, I would just like to see more politicians like her.

            Not if Trump continues his purge of conservatives in the GOP. The DNC unfortunately succumbed to left wing populist bullshit some years ago. Trump is doing everything he can to replace conservatism with his right wing brand of populist nonsense in the GOP.

            Pattern seems to be happening elsewhere in the world as well but without quite the same degree of “in your fucking face” kitschy bravado and macho bluster as Stateside.

            Elbows up!

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              Jolly
              wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 15:59 last edited by
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              Conservatism and Trump are not mutually exclusive.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                17 Aug 2022, 15:59

                Conservatism and Trump are not mutually exclusive.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 16:02 last edited by Renauda
                #25

                @Jolly

                Let’s wait and see.

                Elbows up!

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                  George K
                  wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 21:23 last edited by George K
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 15:21 last edited by
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                    I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                    Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                    Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                    Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

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                      17 Aug 2022, 21:23

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 15:34 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in Cheney Crushed:

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                      I applaud this. Even their use of categorization is satirical.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 16:33 last edited by Jolly
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                        Teh Bee rocks!

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • T taiwan_girl
                          19 Aug 2022, 15:21

                          I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                          Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                          Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                          Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 16:38 last edited by
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                          @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                          I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                          Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                          Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                          Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                          She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • H Horace
                            19 Aug 2022, 16:38

                            @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                            I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                            Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                            Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                            Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                            She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 02:33 last edited by
                            #31

                            @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                            @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                            I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                            Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                            Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                            Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                            She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

                            It is that single issue which caused her to lose. It is not her voting record, that is for sure. So, for the most majority of the voters, they were voting on a single issue.

                            As for her opponent, I dont really know much about her. (This is probably mean to say, but I guess that half of the voters probably dont know much about her either, only that she said she had President Trumps endorsement and Rep. Cheney did not)

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                            • T taiwan_girl
                              20 Aug 2022, 02:33

                              @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                              I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                              Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                              Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                              Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                              She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

                              It is that single issue which caused her to lose. It is not her voting record, that is for sure. So, for the most majority of the voters, they were voting on a single issue.

                              As for her opponent, I dont really know much about her. (This is probably mean to say, but I guess that half of the voters probably dont know much about her either, only that she said she had President Trumps endorsement and Rep. Cheney did not)

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 02:52 last edited by
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                              @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                              @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                              I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                              Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                              Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                              Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                              She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

                              It is that single issue which caused her to lose. It is not her voting record, that is for sure. So, for the most majority of the voters, they were voting on a single issue.

                              As for her opponent, I dont really know much about her. (This is probably mean to say, but I guess that half of the voters probably dont know much about her either, only that she said she had President Trumps endorsement and Rep. Cheney did not)

                              So for all you know there is no substantive difference between the two candidates other than whether they support Trump. But you criticize the voters for making their decision based on the only difference you’re aware of.

                              The reason you lack respect for these voters is because you disagree with them about Trump. But you frame it like you’re opposed to simplistic single issue thinking. That’s unfair to those voters, the vast majority of whom know more about what they’re voting for than you do. I hope you can try to be more respectful of others. It is an important part of being a good citizen of this world we all share.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • T taiwan_girl
                                20 Aug 2022, 02:33

                                @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                                I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                                Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                                Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                                Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                                She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

                                It is that single issue which caused her to lose. It is not her voting record, that is for sure. So, for the most majority of the voters, they were voting on a single issue.

                                As for her opponent, I dont really know much about her. (This is probably mean to say, but I guess that half of the voters probably dont know much about her either, only that she said she had President Trumps endorsement and Rep. Cheney did not)

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 02:53 last edited by
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                                @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                                @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                                I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                                Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                                Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                                Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                                She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

                                It is that single issue which caused her to lose. It is not her voting record, that is for sure. So, for the most majority of the voters, they were voting on a single issue.

                                As for her opponent, I dont really know much about her. (This is probably mean to say, but I guess that half of the voters probably dont know much about her either, only that she said she had President Trumps endorsement and Rep. Cheney did not)

                                Nope.

                                She's been active in the Wyoming GOP for years and lost a run for governor last go-round.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 13:26 last edited by
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                                  @Horace @Jolly

                                  LEt me give a hypothetic:

                                  Lets say you own an Apple phone. You have been happy with the apple phone, it does what you want, no problems with it.

                                  Now, there is a new company who comes out with something they call the Orange phone. They claim it is as good as the Apple phone, but you have never used it, none of your friends have used it, and it is selling for the same price as your Apple phone. You have been happy with the Apple phone. It does what you want it to do, and it fits your needs quite well.

                                  You do know that the Orange phone was marketed a year or two ago, but the majority of people did not like it and did not want to switch to it.

                                  Why would you change to the Orange phone? Unknown quality, same price, people were not willing to switch to it earlyer, etc. :woman-shrugging:

                                  Oh yeah, your favorite celebrity comes out and says she likes the Orange phone and hates the Apple phone. Doesn't really give any reasons why the Orange phone is better, just that Apple phone is bad!!

                                  But, when you look past that, you see that the Apple phone has been very reliable, does exactly what you want and expect, and based on the long history of the Apple phone and its previous generations of phones from the same company, there is no reason to expect that suddenly the operating system or the phone will change in any significant way.

                                  Is the fact that your favorite celebrity doesn't like the Apple phone enough for you to switch?

                                  Maybe it is. For the voters of Wyoming, it obviously was enough. That is democracy in action. Personally, I dont think it is a good enough reason to switch phones, but it is definitely showing that democracy works.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    19 Aug 2022, 16:38

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                                    I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                                    Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                                    Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                                    Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                                    She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 13:40 last edited by
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                                    @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                                    I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                                    Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                                    Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                                    Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                                    She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

                                    Totally get that. It is not how I wish things were, but it's undeniable.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    • H Horace
                                      19 Aug 2022, 16:38

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Cheney Crushed:

                                      I just don't get it. Her only "sin" was not to kiss the shoes of President Trump.

                                      Her voting record was very very conservatively.

                                      Many people say that they are not a single issue voter, but in this case, it seems like they were.

                                      Long term, the Republican "fawning" and absolute devotion of President Trump is a bad strategy.

                                      She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment. A sentiment which, obviously, was at odds with her constituency. Do you seriously have difficulty understanding that? Do you think the person WY chose over her will have more conservative policies, less conservative, or do you have no clue?

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 13:44 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                                      She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment.

                                      She voted for Trump twice.

                                      Her loss was due to being a standard bearer for the Never Coup movement, which is unpopular among swathes of the GOP today.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 13:54 last edited by
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                                        Politics without Kennedy, Bush, Clinton, Cheney...

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          20 Aug 2022, 13:44

                                          @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                                          She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment.

                                          She voted for Trump twice.

                                          Her loss was due to being a standard bearer for the Never Coup movement, which is unpopular among swathes of the GOP today.

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                                          wrote on 20 Aug 2022, 13:55 last edited by Horace
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Cheney Crushed:

                                          @Horace said in Cheney Crushed:

                                          She was a figurehead and standard bearer for Never Trump sentiment.

                                          She voted for Trump twice.

                                          Her loss was due to being a standard bearer for the Never Coup movement, which is unpopular among swathes of the GOP today.

                                          I claim nothing about her behavior before her January 6 moral panic set in. A moral panic she believes she might be able to ride to the presidency, and which aligns perfectly with the Never Trumpers. But that's just coincidence, she has no social climbing goals to cultivate here. Her stance is pure principle, and her loss in WY a pure sacrifice of a job she'd have gladly kept for the rest of her life.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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