Here’s a controversial idea

[jon-nyc]

And it would save us 21c on the dollar.

[jon-nyc]

(Though someone in reply pointed to some data that suggested otherwise)

[Jolly]

Ever watch a female officer get her ass handed to her by a 175 pound guy?

[jon-nyc]

I haven’t, but the (small n) study referenced in the comments suggested women were more likely to use deadly force against an unarmed suspect, and I suspect it’s because they end up on the wrong side of the physical disparity too often.

[Klaus]

I agree that this would likely work, but being "less violent" when it shouldn't be violent is only one job of the police. Sometimes the police must be violent, and in those cases testosterone would be a part of the solution and not part of the problem.

[Loki]

Who says they would want the job?

(In the numbers required. That problem already exists with black men).

[Larry]

@Jolly said in Here’s a controversial idea:

Ever watch a female officer get her ass handed to her by a 175 pound guy?

I've had a couple of them hand her ass to me, though...

[Larry]

Seriously though, the problem isnt testosterone, the problem is grey matter. If the job paid better the y could hire smarter people.

[LuFins Dad]

While it could lead to some great porn, I don’t think it’s generally a good idea.

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[Larry]

My neighbors are making a porn movie.

They don't know it yet, but...

[Copper]

It depends on whether you are the victim or the perp.

[LuFins Dad]

Seriously though, thanks for reminding me that I’m not just evil because I’m white, but because I’m a man, too:

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in Here’s a controversial idea:

I haven’t, but the (small n) study referenced in the comments suggested women were more likely to use deadly force against an unarmed suspect, and I suspect it’s because they end up on the wrong side of the physical disparity too often.

In my Wing Chun classes, when we'd work together, it was always the older student's responsibility to keep both him and his partner safe. Always. You have more experience, it's on you to protect both of you. That wasn't exclusive to us, it's a common practice.

If you're a cop, you have weapons and the law on your side. YES it's your responsibility to keep things safe between you and the public. Always. So my idea is, I don't care how understaffed your department is, you get training for 8 hours a week, every week until you retire.

[Horace]

The SF PD is hiring. I like the four models.

https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/your-sfpd/published-reports/demographics

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Here’s a controversial idea:

I haven’t, but the (small n) study referenced in the comments suggested women were more likely to use deadly force against an unarmed suspect, and I suspect it’s because they end up on the wrong side of the physical disparity too often.

I’ve also read that they wind up being quicker to go to the taser and pepper spray...

[Catseye3]

I'm with LuFin; it's not a good idea. The cop-badguy psychology is all wrong. That itself will likely lead to undesirable escalations. And male cops won't respect them unless they're forced to, which amounts to no respect anyway.

Same like with women warfighters. The natural inclination of men to protect women leads to the men's attention being split in the theater -- a place that's already maximumly dangerous.

Resentment all around.

Not to mention women don't have the physical strength. Not on a day-to-day basis. Women so inclined don't like to hear that, but truth is truth.

Women don't have to bloody be included in everything on earth. I can see a women's sector on the cops, encompassing duties that are more of a supportive kind. But of course the women wannabes won't stand for that.

[Copper]

You couldn't do it with white women

Asian women maybe

Asian women that don't speak English

They let the Taser and pepper spray do their talking