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  • Catseye3C Catseye3

    @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House to material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

    I redd in another source that the Archives in fact did request at length for Trump to return the items after he left office, and finally reported his non-response to Justice.

    As for why he didn't give them back, the answer to that is, because he's Trump and he didn't want to and if he doesn't want to do something he doesn't do it. Because he's Trump.

    If it's proven that he did destroy documents rightfully belonging to the Archive, then he's in the soup. Like he is for so many other things.

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    Jolly
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    #80

    @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House to material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

    I redd in another source that the Archives in fact did request at length for Trump to return the items after he left office, and finally reported his non-response to Justice.

    As for why he didn't give them back, the answer to that is, because he's Trump and he didn't want to and if he doesn't want to do something he doesn't do it. Because he's Trump.

    If it's proven that he did destroy documents rightfully belonging to the Archive, then he's in the soup. Like he is for so many other things.

    He sent them the 15 boxes they requested.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

      If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #81

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

      If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

      You ready?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        George K
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        #82

        Andy McCarthy: It’s all about Jan 6.

        https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/the-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-its-about-the-capitol-riot-not-the-mishandling-of-classified-information/

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Andy McCarthy: It’s all about Jan 6.

          https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/the-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-its-about-the-capitol-riot-not-the-mishandling-of-classified-information/

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          #83

          @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          Andy McCarthy: It’s all about Jan 6.

          https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/the-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-its-about-the-capitol-riot-not-the-mishandling-of-classified-information/

          That would make sense. But if it’s true, there is no evidentiary smoking gun that instigated the warrant and we’re back to overreach and a roll of the dice that nobody will care, because Trump masterminded a coup.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

            If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

            You ready?

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #84

            @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

            If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

            You ready?

            I was born ready!

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            I was only joking

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #85

              Sure would be nice if we could just trust our Law Enforcement to not be highly politicized and to not be punishing their political enemies, but we've seen so much from the FBI and Justice Department over the past 6 years that you just can't trust their motives or message.

              If the FBI hadn't had senior operatives that actively tried to undermine and entrap Candidate, President-Elect, and President Trump then we might be able to trust them.

              If the FBI hadn't run an absurd entrapment scheme revolved around kidnapping Governor Whitmer, maybe we could trust them.

              If the FBI hadn't tried to stage ridiculous fake rallies with fictitious right-wingers following January 6th, maybe we could trust them.

              If the Justice Department had treated various Republican Officials with the same respect in their arrests as they have Democrat Officials, maybe we could trust them. But they haven't.

              On the other hand, we have Donald Effin Trump. FFS...

              Is it too early in the day to start drinking?

              The Brad

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House to material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

                I redd in another source that the Archives in fact did request at length for Trump to return the items after he left office, and finally reported his non-response to Justice.

                As for why he didn't give them back, the answer to that is, because he's Trump and he didn't want to and if he doesn't want to do something he doesn't do it. Because he's Trump.

                If it's proven that he did destroy documents rightfully belonging to the Archive, then he's in the soup. Like he is for so many other things.

                He sent them the 15 boxes they requested.

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                Catseye3
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                #86

                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                He sent them the 15 boxes they requested.

                If he did, he did. What's your source?

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #87

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                    Catseye3
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                    #88

                    @jon-nyc

                    Now you're just talking crazy.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States."

                      The FBI director is a Trump appointee.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #89

                      @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States."

                      The FBI director is a Trump appointee.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #90

                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        I’m totally withholding judgment and I’m totally a conservative. It’s too bad the news cycle will swallow this story whole, should there be no there there, and the I Told You Sos will fall on deaf ears. Will there be not a single liberal who cares about the politicized weaponization of the FBI and Justice? Lol just kidding, the question does not bear asking, as the answer is too obvious.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #91

                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          Yes Matt, there is one.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            Yes Matt, there is one.

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #92

                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            Yes Matt, there is one.

                            Two, counting me.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              I’m totally withholding judgment and I’m totally a conservative. It’s too bad the news cycle will swallow this story whole, should there be no there there, and the I Told You Sos will fall on deaf ears. Will there be not a single liberal who cares about the politicized weaponization of the FBI and Justice? Lol just kidding, the question does not bear asking, as the answer is too obvious.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #93

                              @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Will there be not a single liberal who cares about the politicized weaponization of the FBI and Justice? Lol just kidding, the question does not bear asking, as the answer is too obvious.

                              I will. If nothing substantial comes from this, then the decision makers at the FBI and anybody who else who was involved in the decision should be held to account.

                              I was only joking

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                                Mik
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                                #94

                                Don't hold your breath.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Don't hold your breath.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #95

                                  @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  Don't hold your breath.

                                  Seems to me there's a long history of the FBI being a law unto themselves, going back to the 1920's, so breath-holding might be unwise.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Don't hold your breath.

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                                    #96

                                    @Mik

                                    (Nodding) Because by the time that happens there will be such a tangled schreifest that nobody will learn anything.

                                    To elaborate on LuFin's Karnak predictions:

                                    Of the 45% of the people who defend Trump and attack Justice, 90% will not change their minds, no, not ever, no matter what, and of the 45% who attack Trump and defend Justice, 90% will not change their minds, no, not ever, no matter what. Because both groups will have unassailable support from the entities they crafted their opinions from in the first place and therefore can not be wrong.

                                    And the truth, so-called, will never be determined, much less accepted.

                                    I've toyed with the notion of a world without the Internet because knowledge overdose morphs into bullshit and hurts everybody. Maybe go back to radio and newspapers, I said.

                                    But I'm starting to think maybe we should go back even further, to getting our news from runners with sticks.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      Don't hold your breath.

                                      Seems to me there's a long history of the FBI being a law unto themselves, going back to the 1920's, so breath-holding might be unwise.

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                                      Renauda
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                                      #97

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      Don't hold your breath.

                                      Seems to me there's a long history of the FBI being a law unto themselves, going back to the 1920's, so breath-holding might be unwise.

                                      I have sometimes mused on the notion of Hoover, Heydrich and Beria sharing notes and anecdotes while they all bake together in the discomforts of hell.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        Thank you for the evidence in support of Jolly’s Banana Republic concerns.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #99

                                          Put up or shut up, bitch.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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