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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
    wrote on last edited by
    #72

    From USA Today:

    Top takeaways from the FBI search at Mar-a-Lago:

    The raid marks an escalation in law enforcement scrutiny of the former president.
    Legal analysts say this would have been approved at the highest levels of law enforcement.
    Under the law, any search would need to be authorized by a federal judge after finding probable cause that a crime had been committed and that evidence of the crime exists in the location to be searched.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #73

      Now, what happens if there is no "there", there?

      Or if the violation is so trivial when compared to past violations it appears as purely politically driven?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        From USA Today:

        Top takeaways from the FBI search at Mar-a-Lago:

        The raid marks an escalation in law enforcement scrutiny of the former president.
        Legal analysts say this would have been approved at the highest levels of law enforcement.
        Under the law, any search would need to be authorized by a federal judge after finding probable cause that a crime had been committed and that evidence of the crime exists in the location to be searched.

        taiwan_girlT Online
        taiwan_girlT Online
        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
        #74

        @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        From USA Today:

        Top takeaways from the FBI search at Mar-a-Lago:

        The raid marks an escalation in law enforcement scrutiny of the former president.
        Legal analysts say this would have been approved at the highest levels of law enforcement.
        Under the law, any search would need to be authorized by a federal judge after finding probable cause that a crime had been committed and that evidence of the crime exists in the location to be searched.

        Interesting. I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House with material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

        So, Präsident Trump had to know there were questions about what he took. Why would he not give them back? Is it something that puts him in a bad view? If so, i would have think he would have just destroyed it. 🤷

        What is it that @George-K says? "Get the popcorn" LOL

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          From USA Today:

          Top takeaways from the FBI search at Mar-a-Lago:

          The raid marks an escalation in law enforcement scrutiny of the former president.
          Legal analysts say this would have been approved at the highest levels of law enforcement.
          Under the law, any search would need to be authorized by a federal judge after finding probable cause that a crime had been committed and that evidence of the crime exists in the location to be searched.

          Interesting. I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House with material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

          So, Präsident Trump had to know there were questions about what he took. Why would he not give them back? Is it something that puts him in a bad view? If so, i would have think he would have just destroyed it. 🤷

          What is it that @George-K says? "Get the popcorn" LOL

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
          wrote on last edited by
          #75

          @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House to material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

          I redd in another source that the Archives in fact did request at length for Trump to return the items after he left office, and finally reported his non-response to Justice.

          As for why he didn't give them back, the answer to that is, because he's Trump and he didn't want to and if he doesn't want to do something he doesn't do it. Because he's Trump.

          If it's proven that he did destroy documents rightfully belonging to the Archive, then he's in the soup. Like he is for so many other things.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #76

            Karnak predicts that 45% of the people will defend Trump and attack Justice no matter what was or wasn’t in the documents and 45% of the people will attack Trump and defend Justice no matter what is or isn’t in the documents and everybody will be pointing their fingers at the other side yelling “See?!”

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Karnak predicts that 45% of the people will defend Trump and attack Justice no matter what was or wasn’t in the documents and 45% of the people will attack Trump and defend Justice no matter what is or isn’t in the documents and everybody will be pointing their fingers at the other side yelling “See?!”

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #77

              @LuFins-Dad said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              Karnak predicts that 45% of the people will defend Trump and attack Justice no matter what was or wasn’t in the documents and 45% of the people will attack Trump and defend Justice no matter what is or isn’t in the documents and everybody will be pointing their fingers at the other side yelling “See?!”

              That's pretty much where we're at, yeah.

              Please love yourself.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #78

                Sounds like a glorified library book return penalty. Just kidding, it’s not glorified.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #79

                  I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

                  If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House to material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

                    I redd in another source that the Archives in fact did request at length for Trump to return the items after he left office, and finally reported his non-response to Justice.

                    As for why he didn't give them back, the answer to that is, because he's Trump and he didn't want to and if he doesn't want to do something he doesn't do it. Because he's Trump.

                    If it's proven that he did destroy documents rightfully belonging to the Archive, then he's in the soup. Like he is for so many other things.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #80

                    @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House to material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

                    I redd in another source that the Archives in fact did request at length for Trump to return the items after he left office, and finally reported his non-response to Justice.

                    As for why he didn't give them back, the answer to that is, because he's Trump and he didn't want to and if he doesn't want to do something he doesn't do it. Because he's Trump.

                    If it's proven that he did destroy documents rightfully belonging to the Archive, then he's in the soup. Like he is for so many other things.

                    He sent them the 15 boxes they requested.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

                      If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #81

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

                      If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

                      You ready?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #82

                        Andy McCarthy: It’s all about Jan 6.

                        https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/the-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-its-about-the-capitol-riot-not-the-mishandling-of-classified-information/

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          Andy McCarthy: It’s all about Jan 6.

                          https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/the-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-its-about-the-capitol-riot-not-the-mishandling-of-classified-information/

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #83

                          @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          Andy McCarthy: It’s all about Jan 6.

                          https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/the-fbis-mar-a-lago-raid-its-about-the-capitol-riot-not-the-mishandling-of-classified-information/

                          That would make sense. But if it’s true, there is no evidentiary smoking gun that instigated the warrant and we’re back to overreach and a roll of the dice that nobody will care, because Trump masterminded a coup.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

                            If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

                            You ready?

                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #84

                            @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            I don't understand how anybody can determine whether this was warranted or not at this point.

                            If he does go to court, jury selection will be freaking hilarious - they'll have to ask non-Americans to take it on.

                            You ready?

                            I was born ready!

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                            I was only joking

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #85

                              Sure would be nice if we could just trust our Law Enforcement to not be highly politicized and to not be punishing their political enemies, but we've seen so much from the FBI and Justice Department over the past 6 years that you just can't trust their motives or message.

                              If the FBI hadn't had senior operatives that actively tried to undermine and entrap Candidate, President-Elect, and President Trump then we might be able to trust them.

                              If the FBI hadn't run an absurd entrapment scheme revolved around kidnapping Governor Whitmer, maybe we could trust them.

                              If the FBI hadn't tried to stage ridiculous fake rallies with fictitious right-wingers following January 6th, maybe we could trust them.

                              If the Justice Department had treated various Republican Officials with the same respect in their arrests as they have Democrat Officials, maybe we could trust them. But they haven't.

                              On the other hand, we have Donald Effin Trump. FFS...

                              Is it too early in the day to start drinking?

                              The Brad

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                I mean, I think it was known, or at least supposed, that President Trump left the White House to material he was not supposed to. It should have been easy enough to say to him, "hey, not sure if you were aware, but some of the material you took has to stay in the Archives. We will send a truck down to pick them up. Appreciate your cooperation."

                                I redd in another source that the Archives in fact did request at length for Trump to return the items after he left office, and finally reported his non-response to Justice.

                                As for why he didn't give them back, the answer to that is, because he's Trump and he didn't want to and if he doesn't want to do something he doesn't do it. Because he's Trump.

                                If it's proven that he did destroy documents rightfully belonging to the Archive, then he's in the soup. Like he is for so many other things.

                                He sent them the 15 boxes they requested.

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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #86

                                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                He sent them the 15 boxes they requested.

                                If he did, he did. What's your source?

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #87

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    Catseye3C Offline
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                                    Catseye3
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                                    #88

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    Now you're just talking crazy.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States."

                                      The FBI director is a Trump appointee.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States."

                                      The FBI director is a Trump appointee.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        I’m totally withholding judgment and I’m totally a conservative. It’s too bad the news cycle will swallow this story whole, should there be no there there, and the I Told You Sos will fall on deaf ears. Will there be not a single liberal who cares about the politicized weaponization of the FBI and Justice? Lol just kidding, the question does not bear asking, as the answer is too obvious.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          Yes Matt, there is one.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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