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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Horace said in Dewey's post:

    @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

    I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

    One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

    Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

    It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

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    Horace
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    #20

    @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

    @Horace said in Dewey's post:

    @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

    I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

    One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

    Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

    It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

    I wasn't intending a referendum on your feelings about Larry. I was wondering about your feelings about a man of the cloth, a self described divinely touched True Believer, holding a grudge over online arguments, and claiming one of his old adversaries, soon after the man died, didn't believe in the religion they nominally share. That's the part that I was wondering whether you have a problem with.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @Horace said in Dewey's post:

      @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

      I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

      One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

      Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

      It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

      89th8 Online
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      89th
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      #21

      @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

      @Horace said in Dewey's post:

      @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

      I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

      One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

      Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

      It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

      Well said. Similar to @Klaus ‘s take on it earlier in this thread. Same for me, I never took Larry’s “cranking of the vitriol-o-meter to the max” personally.

      Many times I had him pegged in a corner as I poked the Tennessee bear, just as I’m sure he thought he had me cornered too.

      Larry was sincere, an attribute I value quite highly when I think of someone. Whether it’s TNCR or IRL I have found it’s best not too let folks get to you, always look for the good, and appreciate your time learning from others. The only time someone’s negative words ever cause damage is if you let them.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Renauda said in Dewey's post:

        I never much cared for Dewey’s tendency to proselytise through the back door.

        I see what you did there…

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        Renauda
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        #22

        @LuFins-Dad said in Dewey's post:

        @Renauda said in Dewey's post:

        I never much cared for Dewey’s tendency to proselytise through the back door.

        I see what you did there…

        I know what you’re suggesting but I did not mean it that way. Rather I did not care for his tendency to turn every topic he commented on into a Back to the Bible Hour lesson and lay down a sermon opportunity.

        Elbows up!

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        • 89th8 Online
          89th8 Online
          89th
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          #23

          Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

          I was going to ask about the murder but then recalled the Justme crime. Ugh, that really was a tragedy that I hadn’t thought about in a while.

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          • 89th8 89th

            Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

            I was going to ask about the murder but then recalled the Justme crime. Ugh, that really was a tragedy that I hadn’t thought about in a while.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #24

            @89th said in Dewey's post:

            Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

            I think that's probably the book 'Grand Obsession' - check it out on Amazon (I haven't read it)

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @89th said in Dewey's post:

              Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

              I think that's probably the book 'Grand Obsession' - check it out on Amazon (I haven't read it)

              89th8 Online
              89th8 Online
              89th
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              #25

              @Doctor-Phibes call me when the movie comes out lol

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              • 89th8 Online
                89th8 Online
                89th
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                #26

                Just read Dewey’s post. I can appreciate his sincerity just as well. I enjoyed meeting Dewey many years ago during a TNCR meet-up and the many years of thoughtful posts I’ve read. Folks handle other folks in their own way. It’s part of the what makes TNCR (and related forums) dynamic yet meaningful.

                I’d reply to his post except all of his posts are on the “public” privacy setting instead of “friends” which means correspondence is well, too public, for me.

                I am sad I missed what Copper wrote but am glad Phibes said something about the timing. I fully appreciate and don’t discount that others were hurt by Larry, but quite simply I’m not sure I see the utility of publicly criticizing someone after death, let alone so close to their passing. What’s the point? A warning to others not to say mean words on the internet? (Or perhaps a reminder of the value of ignoring those who bother you)

                There hasn’t even been a funeral yet, that is tomorrow. Perhaps the utility is catharsis? If so, so be it. I hope the post brought Dewey and others nodding with him some closure. Let’s focus on the good in people, it will help us all rise the tide for the better.

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                  Improviso
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                  What an absolutely disgusting chicken-shit thing to publicly do to Larry.

                  But if those are the rules, I'll be sure to piss on Dewey's grave when his time comes and I won't hide behind the Bible when I do it.

                  It just reaffirms my impression of him as a long winded narcissistic poseur.

                  While Mrs. Dewey was devastated, he did her a huge favor years ago. She has my sympathy for all the years that she lost due to him.

                  Man... this really pisses me off.

                  We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                  Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                    Jolly
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                    #28

                    Notice that it was done in a medium where he controls any feedback and has deleted thoughts he does not agree with. I think that also says something.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Notice that it was done in a medium where he controls any feedback and has deleted thoughts he does not agree with. I think that also says something.

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                      Horace
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                      #29

                      @Jolly said in Dewey's post:

                      Notice that it was done in a medium where he controls any feedback and has deleted thoughts he does not agree with. I think that also says something.

                      Yes he has a talent for living in a reality of his own choosing, and ignoring the rest. He surrounds himself with people who buy into his narcissistic posing (appropriate words, Improv) and it all becomes real to him.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @Jolly said in Dewey's post:

                        Notice that it was done in a medium where he controls any feedback and has deleted thoughts he does not agree with. I think that also says something.

                        Yes he has a talent for living in a reality of his own choosing, and ignoring the rest. He surrounds himself with people who buy into his narcissistic posing (appropriate words, Improv) and it all becomes real to him.

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                        George K
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                        #30

                        @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                        living in a reality of his own choosing,

                        We all do that. We seek to be where we are comfortable. For that reason (and others, to be sure) I don't go next door. It's normal behavior to find where you're comfortable.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                          living in a reality of his own choosing,

                          We all do that. We seek to be where we are comfortable. For that reason (and others, to be sure) I don't go next door. It's normal behavior to find where you're comfortable.

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                          Horace
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                          #31

                          @George-K said in Dewey's post:

                          @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                          living in a reality of his own choosing,

                          We all do that. We seek to be where we are comfortable. For that reason (and others, to be sure) I don't go next door. It's normal behavior to find where you're comfortable.

                          Of course it is. But not all of us believe our own narratives to the same extent. Some of us are more capable of self reflection and fault acknowledgment than others.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            Just read Dewey’s post. I can appreciate his sincerity just as well. I enjoyed meeting Dewey many years ago during a TNCR meet-up and the many years of thoughtful posts I’ve read. Folks handle other folks in their own way. It’s part of the what makes TNCR (and related forums) dynamic yet meaningful.

                            I’d reply to his post except all of his posts are on the “public” privacy setting instead of “friends” which means correspondence is well, too public, for me.

                            I am sad I missed what Copper wrote but am glad Phibes said something about the timing. I fully appreciate and don’t discount that others were hurt by Larry, but quite simply I’m not sure I see the utility of publicly criticizing someone after death, let alone so close to their passing. What’s the point? A warning to others not to say mean words on the internet? (Or perhaps a reminder of the value of ignoring those who bother you)

                            There hasn’t even been a funeral yet, that is tomorrow. Perhaps the utility is catharsis? If so, so be it. I hope the post brought Dewey and others nodding with him some closure. Let’s focus on the good in people, it will help us all rise the tide for the better.

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                            @89th said in Dewey's post:

                            I am sad I missed what Copper wrote

                            I didn't save it, but it was only 3 lines, something like this:


                            What a rotten post.

                            Most people got along ok with Larry.

                            Those that did not were active participants in the brawl.


                            That's about it.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @89th said in Dewey's post:

                              I am sad I missed what Copper wrote

                              I didn't save it, but it was only 3 lines, something like this:


                              What a rotten post.

                              Most people got along ok with Larry.

                              Those that did not were active participants in the brawl.


                              That's about it.

                              89th8 Online
                              89th8 Online
                              89th
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #33

                              @Copper Well summarized. Your brevity is something I should try sometime.

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                                Horace
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                                #34

                                Imagine if Dewey had gone public at the time with his fantasies of calling in a swat team to get back at Larry. We would have understood the context and laughed at it. It would have been shameful and pathetic to threaten legal action, which is why at the time, Dewey kept it to fantasy. Then in this grave-crapping post, he drags it out as a piece of rhetorical flair to impress on the gullible masses how severe the situation really was.

                                A primary theme of the left is, as always, to make everybody else responsible for their own emotional over-reactions. The hatred from those mediocrities on Facebook and over the fence should be reserved for maybe parents who abused you. Not internet warriors you chose to do battle with.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  Imagine if Dewey had gone public at the time with his fantasies of calling in a swat team to get back at Larry. We would have understood the context and laughed at it. It would have been shameful and pathetic to threaten legal action, which is why at the time, Dewey kept it to fantasy. Then in this grave-crapping post, he drags it out as a piece of rhetorical flair to impress on the gullible masses how severe the situation really was.

                                  A primary theme of the left is, as always, to make everybody else responsible for their own emotional over-reactions. The hatred from those mediocrities on Facebook and over the fence should be reserved for maybe parents who abused you. Not internet warriors you chose to do battle with.

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                                  Improviso
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                                  #35

                                  @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                                  Then in this grave-crapping post, he drags it out as a piece of rhetorical flair to impress on the gullible masses how severe the situation really was.

                                  Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

                                  I suppose that would be too much to ask a "man of the cloth", huh?

                                  We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                  Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                  • ImprovisoI Improviso

                                    @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                                    Then in this grave-crapping post, he drags it out as a piece of rhetorical flair to impress on the gullible masses how severe the situation really was.

                                    Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

                                    I suppose that would be too much to ask a "man of the cloth", huh?

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                                    Horace
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                                    @Improviso said in Dewey's post:

                                    @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                                    Then in this grave-crapping post, he drags it out as a piece of rhetorical flair to impress on the gullible masses how severe the situation really was.

                                    Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

                                    I suppose that would be too much to ask a "man of the cloth", huh?

                                    I'm very sure people in his position should not make claims about the religious beliefs of others, immediately after they die or otherwise.

                                    When people fail tests of character, they often do so publicly and proudly. It's a variation on the theme that character is shown by your actions when you think nobody is watching. People feel nobody is watching, as long as they're a good soldier in a war of good vs evil.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      Luke 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. 45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        The Matthew 7 version...

                                        15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

                                        21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          The Matthew 7 version...

                                          15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

                                          21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          I don’t agree with all the shit being thrown at Dewey. I didn’t agree with him posting what he did when he did, but he had his reasons.

                                          This situation isn’t as simple as him being the bad guy.

                                          I was only joking

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