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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #17

    I can see murder 2.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • MikM Offline
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      But the killing was still not provably intentional. If I were on the jury I would find 2nd degree a stretch.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        #19

        I suppose any member of the jury is going to have the social consequences on their minds. There is a clear promise of a widespread violent uprising, bought and paid for by the left, if the verdict isn't as demanded.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Mik

          But the killing was still not provably intentional. If I were on the jury I would find 2nd degree a stretch.

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          @Mik said in Overcharging:

          But the killing was still not provably intentional. If I were on the jury I would find 2nd degree a stretch.

          IIRC, choke holds are allowed in Minneapolis. And folks, people will scream most anything while being restrained. The cop screwed up by not checking on his suspect's health, which is negligence. He used too much force, which is criminal.

          You can nail him for Murder 3 pretty easily, IMO. Unless the fix is in, Murder 2 will make for a very interesting trial.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            I suppose a police mob could destroy some property and get the charges reduced.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              I suppose any member of the jury is going to have the social consequences on their minds. There is a clear promise of a widespread violent uprising, bought and paid for by the left, if the verdict isn't as demanded.

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              #22

              @Horace said in Overcharging:

              I suppose any member of the jury is going to have the social consequences on their minds. There is a clear promise of a widespread violent uprising, bought and paid for by the left, if the verdict isn't as demanded.

              I wouldn’t. The case is the case and has to stand on its own merits. I would not give social consequence any consideration at all. Anything else is in fact an abdication of your real social responsibility.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                The Brad

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                • MikM Mik

                  @Horace said in Overcharging:

                  I suppose any member of the jury is going to have the social consequences on their minds. There is a clear promise of a widespread violent uprising, bought and paid for by the left, if the verdict isn't as demanded.

                  I wouldn’t. The case is the case and has to stand on its own merits. I would not give social consequence any consideration at all. Anything else is in fact an abdication of your real social responsibility.

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                  George K
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                  @Mik said in Overcharging:

                  The case is the case and has to stand on its own merits. I would not give social consequence any consideration at all. Anything else is in fact an abdication of your real social responsibility.

                  You foolish idealist, you.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Would be nice if the jury held themselves to that standard.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Would be nice if the jury held themselves to that standard.

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                      George K
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                      @Horace said in Overcharging:

                      Would be nice if the jury held themselves to that standard.

                      You foolish idealist, you.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        I mean, not nice for store owners on main street.

                        Nice for glass repair people.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Mik said in Overcharging:

                          The case is the case and has to stand on its own merits. I would not give social consequence any consideration at all. Anything else is in fact an abdication of your real social responsibility.

                          You foolish idealist, you.

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                          @George-K said in Overcharging:

                          @Mik said in Overcharging:

                          The case is the case and has to stand on its own merits. I would not give social consequence any consideration at all. Anything else is in fact an abdication of your real social responsibility.

                          You foolish idealist, you.

                          You cynical curmudgeon, you.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            It will be interesting what comes out during the trial. I maintain there is a backstory yet to come out.
                            They knew each other. Either the cop was giving special punishment to Floyd to teach him a lesson, or, the cop was telegraphing a lesson to someone else via Floyd, but which included Floyd.
                            The fact that the other cops did virtually nothing, seems to indicate that they knew better than to cross the cop, or do anything other than gently try to convince him to get off his neck.

                            Think Serpico, and it all makes sense.

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