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    Jolly
    wrote on 23 Jul 2022, 15:59 last edited by
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    https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/21/us_taiwan_chips_china/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 23 Jul 2022, 16:30 last edited by
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      How the hell did we get into this position?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 23 Jul 2022, 17:09 last edited by
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        Greed and stupidity. I'm not sure which one came first.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 01:40 last edited by
          #4

          There have been articles in the Taiwan news that TSCM has been spreading talks that they want to move some of their manufacturing to the US.

          Also, isn't the design of alot of the chip machines come from a company in the Nederlands?

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            xenon
            wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 03:08 last edited by xenon
            #5

            If a scenario like this comes to pass, China’s economy is also in the toilet.

            Best China could hope for is a Pyrrhic victory.

            The aggressor would face the collective economic wrath of the world.

            TSMC should just build a fab in a diff country.

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            • X xenon
              24 Jul 2022, 03:08

              If a scenario like this comes to pass, China’s economy is also in the toilet.

              Best China could hope for is a Pyrrhic victory.

              The aggressor would face the collective economic wrath of the world.

              TSMC should just build a fab in a diff country.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 07:47 last edited by
              #6

              @xenon said in CHIPS:

              TSMC should just build a fab in a diff country.

              It‘s not just the hardware, but the human resource that is hardest to develop.

              Maybe the USA can offer to make Taiwan the 52nd state?

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                Mik
                wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 12:23 last edited by Mik
                #7

                That would certainly change China's calculus, but probably not in a good way. But who is the 51st?

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  24 Jul 2022, 12:23

                  That would certainly change China's calculus, but probably not in a good way. But who is the 51st?

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                  George K
                  wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 12:25 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in CHIPS:

                  But who is the 51st?

                  DC, presumably.

                  Arizona: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/tech/tsmc-arizona-chip-factory-intl-hnk/index.html

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 12:35 last edited by Mik
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                    DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      24 Jul 2022, 12:35

                      DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 12:42 last edited by
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                      @Mik

                      Yes. Maryland deserves it (she said darkly).

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • C Catseye3
                        24 Jul 2022, 12:42

                        @Mik

                        Yes. Maryland deserves it (she said darkly).

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 13:16 last edited by
                        #11

                        @Catseye3 said in CHIPS:

                        @Mik

                        Yes. Maryland deserves it (she said darkly).

                        👹

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
                          wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 13:58 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Mik said in CHIPS:

                          But who is the 51st?

                          DC, presumably.

                          Arizona: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/tech/tsmc-arizona-chip-factory-intl-hnk/index.html

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            24 Jul 2022, 12:35

                            DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 22:09 last edited by
                            #13

                            @Mik said in CHIPS:

                            DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

                            Fuck that. Maryland had its chance and doesn't want any part of it. For good reason.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              24 Jul 2022, 12:42

                              @Mik

                              Yes. Maryland deserves it (she said darkly).

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 22:14 last edited by Aqua Letifer
                              #14

                              @Catseye3 said in CHIPS:

                              @Mik

                              Yes. Maryland deserves it (she said darkly).

                              Doesn't your state throw dads in jail for calling out school board coverups of sexual assault?

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 22:16 last edited by
                                #15

                                Yeah, but It's so common in Maryland, they just assign it a letter grade.😛😛

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  24 Jul 2022, 22:09

                                  @Mik said in CHIPS:

                                  DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

                                  Fuck that. Maryland had its chance and doesn't want any part of it. For good reason.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 22:19 last edited by
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in CHIPS:

                                  @Mik said in CHIPS:

                                  DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

                                  Fuck that. Maryland had its chance and doesn't want any part of it. For good reason.

                                  Why not? You already have Baltimore, which is worse. It would be an upgrade.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • M Mik
                                    24 Jul 2022, 22:19

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in CHIPS:

                                    @Mik said in CHIPS:

                                    DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

                                    Fuck that. Maryland had its chance and doesn't want any part of it. For good reason.

                                    Why not? You already have Baltimore, which is worse. It would be an upgrade.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 24 Jul 2022, 22:24 last edited by
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                                    @Mik said in CHIPS:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in CHIPS:

                                    @Mik said in CHIPS:

                                    DC is just fine the way it is. It was made part of no state for a reason. If that must change for representation, then make it what it naturally is - part of Maryland.

                                    Fuck that. Maryland had its chance and doesn't want any part of it. For good reason.

                                    Why not? You already have Baltimore, which is worse. It would be an upgrade.

                                    "Too expensive a gift" is how it was phrased back when it was considered, and that's even more true today. And in terms of taxes, we already pay out the ass for cleaning up VA's and PA's messes.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 22:03 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      "Tiny Taipei" in Arizona:

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/business/tsmc-phoenix-taiwan.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lU4.7gmM.j41IehwLevM3

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 22:07 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        Trade DC for Greenland.

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                                          30 Dec 2024, 22:03

                                          "Tiny Taipei" in Arizona:

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/business/tsmc-phoenix-taiwan.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lU4.7gmM.j41IehwLevM3

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 30 Dec 2024, 22:36 last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @Axtremus said in CHIPS:

                                          "Tiny Taipei" in Arizona:

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/business/tsmc-phoenix-taiwan.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lU4.7gmM.j41IehwLevM3

                                          That’s a lot of H1B visas…

                                          The Brad

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