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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    "Lock Them Up!" LOL

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    Catseye3
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    @taiwan_girl said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

    "Lock Them Up!" LOL

    Nah! First thing they'll do is call their lawyer! And it will never occur to them that this is a precious right they have! Spend time in lockup with those criminals? Please.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Words fail.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Brave women, not afraid to sacrifice for the cause

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        • CopperC Copper

          Brave women, not afraid to sacrifice for the cause

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          Catseye3
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          @Copper Phooey.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            They are so eager to try and be rebellious.

            The irony... they (Congress) are THE way to secure elective surgery abortion rights for women. Who are they protesting? They are literally the ones that can do something about it if there are enough votes. Heck, even SCOTUS confirmed that this is a legislative decision, not a judicial one.

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            • 89th8 89th

              They are so eager to try and be rebellious.

              The irony... they (Congress) are THE way to secure elective surgery abortion rights for women. Who are they protesting? They are literally the ones that can do something about it if there are enough votes. Heck, even SCOTUS confirmed that this is a legislative decision, not a judicial one.

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              George K
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              @89th said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

              They are literally the ones that can do something about it if there are enough votes. Heck, even SCOTUS confirmed that this is a legislative decision, not a judicial one.

              Because theater.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
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                image.jpeg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  The charges will be dismissed, probably.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    The charges will be dismissed, probably.

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                    @Catseye3 said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                    The charges will be dismissed, probably.

                    She should be jailed and put in solitary confinement. No bail pending trial.

                    Because interfering with government work is "insurrection-ey."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Catseye3 said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                      The charges will be dismissed, probably.

                      She should be jailed and put in solitary confinement. No bail pending trial.

                      Because interfering with government work is "insurrection-ey."

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                      Catseye3
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                      @George-K said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                      No bail pending trial.

                      And no trial, either. Give her a lesson on what "no rights" really can mean.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        George K
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                        I still don't get why she was wearing a tweed coat in Washington, in July.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          @George-K said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                          No bail pending trial.

                          And no trial, either. Give her a lesson on what "no rights" really can mean.

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                          @Catseye3 said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                          @George-K said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                          No bail pending trial.

                          And no trial, either. Give her a lesson on what "no rights" really can mean.

                          Oh, she can have a trial. In about a year, like the rest of the plebians.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • George KG George K

                            I still don't get why she was wearing a tweed coat in Washington, in July.

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                            @George-K said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                            I still don't get why she was wearing a tweed coat in Washington, in July.

                            Image > Substance?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              Never trust a populist.

                              I was only joking

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                                I'm not sure what is the best course of action.

                                She and the others need to be made to understand how inappropriate were her actions as a member of the US Congress. But what are the optics if she's tried in a court of law? Do the PTB want to risk leaving the impression that demonstrating is against the law? Demonstrating is okay for the populace -- is a good thing, in fact; it gives the people a peaceful means to express their views and let off steam -- but is inexpressibly inappropriate and what Jolly calls head-bangingly stupid for a member of Congress to do so.

                                Was a time when I believed the public would understand the difference, but in these emotive times, I no longer believe they understand much of anything, and I was probably wrong to believe it in the first place.

                                I could care less what happens to those jackasses. They can fall off a bridge for all of me. But Congress has a responsibility to uphold its role of dignity and decorum and most of all relevance in the eyes of the public.

                                They can't let this go, but what do they do? Maybe the best course is to wink at a dismissal of the charges (by some plausible rationale) and then censure them in Congress. Do it in a way that the public understands the seriousness of what they did.

                                I dunno.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  I'm not sure what is the best course of action.

                                  She and the others need to be made to understand how inappropriate were her actions as a member of the US Congress. But what are the optics if she's tried in a court of law? Do the PTB want to risk leaving the impression that demonstrating is against the law? Demonstrating is okay for the populace -- is a good thing, in fact; it gives the people a peaceful means to express their views and let off steam -- but is inexpressibly inappropriate and what Jolly calls head-bangingly stupid for a member of Congress to do so.

                                  Was a time when I believed the public would understand the difference, but in these emotive times, I no longer believe they understand much of anything, and I was probably wrong to believe it in the first place.

                                  I could care less what happens to those jackasses. They can fall off a bridge for all of me. But Congress has a responsibility to uphold its role of dignity and decorum and most of all relevance in the eyes of the public.

                                  They can't let this go, but what do they do? Maybe the best course is to wink at a dismissal of the charges (by some plausible rationale) and then censure them in Congress. Do it in a way that the public understands the seriousness of what they did.

                                  I dunno.

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                                  George K
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                                  #29

                                  @Catseye3 said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                                  inexpressibly inappropriate

                                  Yes, they should have done something more understated and subtle.

                                  image.jpeg

                                  They can't let this go, but what do they do?

                                  As @89th said, "Their jobs" - legislate abortion.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    Please, the whole thing is a publicity stunt. The Capitol Police specifically tweeted that they had arrested 17 members of Congress? They were asked/told to do so. Show me the mugshots, show me them being read their Miranda Rights, show me the fingerprinting…

                                    They were escorted away and at their insistence it is being called an arrest…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      Please, the whole thing is a publicity stunt. The Capitol Police specifically tweeted that they had arrested 17 members of Congress? They were asked/told to do so. Show me the mugshots, show me them being read their Miranda Rights, show me the fingerprinting…

                                      They were escorted away and at their insistence it is being called an arrest…

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                                      Please, the whole thing is a publicity stunt. The Capitol Police specifically tweeted that they had arrested 17 members of Congress? They were asked/told to do so. Show me the mugshots, show me them being read their Miranda Rights, show me the fingerprinting…

                                      They were escorted away and at their insistence it is being called an arrest…

                                      Thank you for the accurate framing.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        Please, the whole thing is a publicity stunt. The Capitol Police specifically tweeted that they had arrested 17 members of Congress? They were asked/told to do so. Show me the mugshots, show me them being read their Miranda Rights, show me the fingerprinting…

                                        They were escorted away and at their insistence it is being called an arrest…

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                                        Please, the whole thing is a publicity stunt. The Capitol Police specifically tweeted that they had arrested 17 members of Congress? They were asked/told to do so.

                                        By whom?

                                        If this is a publicity stunt, then we're deeper down in the rabbit hole than I for one realized. These women may be -- okay, are -- idiots, but they're members of Congress. Why on earth would the Capitol police go along with such an outrageous stunt? Who specifically has the clout to order them to do such a thing?

                                        Not saying your version is wrong. But it feels like too bizarre a stretch. And just because you're not seeing the due process doesn't mean it isn't happening. Or -- and this is probably more likely -- there is no due process and they're being held to keep their stupid yaps off the cameras and making everything worse.

                                        Thinking about this some more, I wonder if this is in fact more serious than we realize. I don't know enough about Constitutional implications of separation of powers to know if they're threatened somehow. It doesn't seem like it, but if there is some threat there, it's going to be a pretty big deal.

                                        I kind of doubt it, though.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                                          Please, the whole thing is a publicity stunt. The Capitol Police specifically tweeted that they had arrested 17 members of Congress? They were asked/told to do so.

                                          By whom?

                                          If this is a publicity stunt, then we're deeper down in the rabbit hole than I for one realized. These women may be -- okay, are -- idiots, but they're members of Congress. Why on earth would the Capitol police go along with such an outrageous stunt? Who specifically has the clout to order them to do such a thing?

                                          Not saying your version is wrong. But it feels like too bizarre a stretch. And just because you're not seeing the due process doesn't mean it isn't happening. Or -- and this is probably more likely -- there is no due process and they're being held to keep their stupid yaps off the cameras and making everything worse.

                                          Thinking about this some more, I wonder if this is in fact more serious than we realize. I don't know enough about Constitutional implications of separation of powers to know if they're threatened somehow. It doesn't seem like it, but if there is some threat there, it's going to be a pretty big deal.

                                          I kind of doubt it, though.

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                                          @Catseye3 said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in AOC dragged away in chains!:

                                          Please, the whole thing is a publicity stunt. The Capitol Police specifically tweeted that they had arrested 17 members of Congress? They were asked/told to do so.

                                          By whom?

                                          If this is a publicity stunt, then we're deeper down in the rabbit hole than I for one realized. These women may be -- okay, are -- idiots, but they're members of Congress. Why on earth would the Capitol police go along with such an outrageous stunt? Who specifically has the clout to order them to do such a thing?
                                          you
                                          Not saying your version is wrong. But it feels like too bizarre a stretch. And just because you're not seeing the due process doesn't mean it isn't happening. Or -- and this is probably more likely -- there is no due process and they're being held to keep their stupid yaps off the cameras and making everything worse.

                                          Thinking about this some more, I wonder if this is in fact more serious than we realize. I don't know enough about Constitutional implications of separation of powers to know if they're threatened somehow. It doesn't seem like it, but if there is some threat there, it's going to be a pretty big deal.

                                          I kind of doubt it, though.

                                          It was performative but that doesn’t mean it was a smoky room conspiracy. Could be that the Capitol police informed them they had to leave or be arrested, and they eagerly agreed to be arrested. Then the social media operator for the Capitol police played their part and tweeted in support of the narrative that was understood to be the point.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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