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Bring Back The Draft

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    Jolly
    wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 15:11 last edited by
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    Why not?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/with-few-able-and-fewer-willing-u-s-military-can-t-find-recruits/ar-AAZzzJB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=23f9df6a939b4a0eac1edcad0bfb716f

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Klaus
      wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 15:19 last edited by
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      Maybe raise the pay checks by 20%?

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      • K Klaus
        14 Jul 2022, 15:19

        Maybe raise the pay checks by 20%?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 16:03 last edited by
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        @Klaus said in Bring Back The Draft:

        Maybe raise the pay checks by 20%?

        You're probably right, but think it has a few more benefits. I think for some, it might help them with maturity and focus in life. For some, I think it could help with vocational training. For some, it might be a chosen career.

        Except for those in specialized training, I'd like to see a very short active-duty segment...Say 12-13 months, followed by a National Guard or Reserve duty of 1-2 years. Both men and women should be go, in a universal draft.

        I'd also like the services to bring back and expand certain MOS. Train people how to cook, how to work on diesel engines, how to help refuel and service aircraft, how to drive trucks, how to operate construction equipment, etc. If you want advanced skills...nursing, laboratory, computers, air traffic control, etc., you can voluntarily sign up for an enlistment within 30 days of the end of basic training, provided your ASVAB scores are high enough.

        For those without high school diplomas or GED's, ASVAB scores will determine your MOS choices, but after landing in your new assignment, the draftee will attend mandatory GED courses, with a goal of obtaining a GED before separation from the service. Instruction time and study time will be mandatory for such soldiers and sailors.

        I'm also not against a national service corps. Put draftees out there helping to build infrastructure or helping to demolish blighted urban areas and dovetail it in with their military obligations.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 16:20 last edited by
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          College Loan Forgiveness!

          The Brad

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 16:58 last edited by
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            People are going to fight tooth and nail against being told to wear a mask as an attack on their liberty, but they'll happily don fatigues and accept being forced to join the military?

            I was only joking

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              14 Jul 2022, 16:20

              College Loan Forgiveness!

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              Jolly
              wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 17:19 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad said in Bring Back The Draft:

              College Loan Forgiveness!

              Why not?

              Year for year reimbursement for each year served, up to a total of four years. Amount to be the average state university tuition in your state of residence. Fees will be covered under a guaranteed loan from the U.S. government. If you go into certain vocations (example, teaching), university fees will be paid on a year for year worked basis.

              Basic college classes (200 level and under)will be offered to all enlisted personnel at no cost while on active duty or while in the NG or reserves.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 17:29 last edited by
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                Who's going to pay for all this?

                I was only joking

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 17:37 last edited by
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                  Draft ‘em all

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    14 Jul 2022, 17:29

                    Who's going to pay for all this?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 20:36 last edited by
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bring Back The Draft:

                    Who's going to pay for all this?

                    I'll kick in my share.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 02:35 last edited by
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                      Who wants to join an institution that that majority of republicans and democrats thought was doing the wrong thing for the past 20 years (Afghanistan, Iraq)?

                      People still respect the uniform, but do many respect the work, outcomes and impact?

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                      • J Jolly
                        14 Jul 2022, 20:36

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Bring Back The Draft:

                        Who's going to pay for all this?

                        I'll kick in my share.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 03:29 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in Bring Back The Draft:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Bring Back The Draft:

                        Who's going to pay for all this?

                        I'll kick in my share.

                        Don't you just love big government?

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                        • A Axtremus
                          16 Jul 2022, 03:29

                          @Jolly said in Bring Back The Draft:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Bring Back The Draft:

                          Who's going to pay for all this?

                          I'll kick in my share.

                          Don't you just love big government?

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                          NobodySock
                          wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 08:07 last edited by
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                          Finally, something I can agree with from you. You dimwitted ostrich. Been saying it for a very long time. Each and every 18 year old should serve minimum 2 years in the armed force of their choice. But there is no getting out of it. A law. An enforced law. I know it doesn't go well here in this forum full of college grads with daddy's spoon still stuck up their butt, but I believe our country would be so much better off by forcing high school grads to give back to this country and learn some respect and gratitude before daddy sends them off to become cynical smart people with no common sense.

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                            16 Jul 2022, 08:07

                            Finally, something I can agree with from you. You dimwitted ostrich. Been saying it for a very long time. Each and every 18 year old should serve minimum 2 years in the armed force of their choice. But there is no getting out of it. A law. An enforced law. I know it doesn't go well here in this forum full of college grads with daddy's spoon still stuck up their butt, but I believe our country would be so much better off by forcing high school grads to give back to this country and learn some respect and gratitude before daddy sends them off to become cynical smart people with no common sense.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 11:07 last edited by
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                            @NobodySock said in Bring Back The Draft:

                            Finally, something I can agree with from you. You dimwitted ostrich. Been saying it for a very long time. Each and every 18 year old should serve minimum 2 years in the armed force of their choice. But there is no getting out of it. A law. An enforced law. I know it doesn't go well here in this forum full of college grads with daddy's spoon still stuck up their butt, but I believe our country would be so much better off by forcing high school grads to give back to this country and learn some respect and gratitude before daddy sends them off to become cynical smart people with no common sense.

                            How was rehab?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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