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If you needed another reason to hate BMWs...

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    Just saw that on TV. No way. I already paid to have the capability in the car. Not going to pay to use it.

    My Nissan has a monthly subscription option to use remote start, accident monitoring, etc. Not doing it.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #3

      I would buy another brand that didn’t attempt that model.

      I have heated and cooled seats, remote start, etc. I’m not going to give it up and I’m not going to pay monthly for it either.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #4

        Are the cooled seats that good?

        Oh, and heated is a necessity. Heated steering wheel is nice too.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          #5

          Remote start is important (on hot and cold days) to me. Heated seats are nice, my wife likes them more than I do. I have been in car with ventilated seats and enjoy it on hot days for sure.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            Yes cooled seats are awesome.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #7

              Easiest way to be more comfortable than rich people in their cars and planes, is to relax at home. Words to live by.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • KlausK Offline
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                Klaus
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                #8

                From what I understand, you can either choose to just buy heated seats, and then there's no subscription.

                You only get the option to subscribe if you don't pay for heated seats but then want heated seats anyway.

                Sounds like a fair deal to me.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  From what I understand, you can either choose to just buy heated seats, and then there's no subscription.

                  You only get the option to subscribe if you don't pay for heated seats but then want heated seats anyway.

                  Sounds like a fair deal to me.

                  Catseye3C Offline
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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @Klaus said in If you needed another reason to hate BMWs...:

                  Sounds like a fair deal to me.

                  Sounds like a carny-barker deal to me! Step right up, suckas! This is the first I've heard of a subscription for car amenities! Hats off to Mik and Jon!

                  I hate being cold more than anything on earth, and I would freeze to death before I paid a subscription for their lousy seats. Greedy barstids.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @Klaus said in If you needed another reason to hate BMWs...:

                    Sounds like a fair deal to me.

                    Sounds like a carny-barker deal to me! Step right up, suckas! This is the first I've heard of a subscription for car amenities! Hats off to Mik and Jon!

                    I hate being cold more than anything on earth, and I would freeze to death before I paid a subscription for their lousy seats. Greedy barstids.

                    KlausK Offline
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                    Klaus
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                    #10

                    @Catseye3 said in If you needed another reason to hate BMWs...:

                    Sounds like a carny-barker deal to me! Step right up, suckas! This is the first I've heard of a subscription for car amenities! Hats off to Mik and Jon!
                    I hate being cold more than anything on earth, and I would freeze to death before I paid a subscription for their lousy seats. Greedy barstids.

                    But their business model doesn't take anything away. It only gives you additional options. For free. Having options always has a positive value, economists say.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      I'm just surprised that something as basic as heated seats is even an option on a car like BMW.

                      I may be missing it, but heated seats are standard on the A4.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #12

                        Iowahawk: "Sorry I'm already paying a $15/month subscription for the recliner lever on my Smart La-Z-Boy."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • Catseye3C Offline
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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            I have a terrible feeling that some of you will not fare well after the apocalypse.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              I managed to scrape by for over 40 years without heated car seats. Now suddenly, they're a necessity. Even my cheapo Subaru has them.

                              I was only joking

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                              • George KG George K

                                I'm just surprised that something as basic as heated seats is even an option on a car like BMW.

                                I may be missing it, but heated seats are standard on the A4.

                                KlausK Offline
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                                @George-K said in If you needed another reason to hate BMWs...:

                                I'm just surprised that something as basic as heated seats is even an option on a car like BMW.

                                I may be missing it, but heated seats are standard on the A4.

                                In the US.

                                If you order a BMW or an Audi over here, the base model has basically nothing. You are lucky if it features 4 wheels.

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                                • CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by Copper
                                  #17

                                  I don't have heated seats in my Cadillac.

                                  Don't worry about me, I'm ok

                                  The important thing is that it is a domestic car, mostly

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    I don't have heated seats in my Cadillac.

                                    Don't worry about me, I'm ok

                                    The important thing is that it is a domestic car, mostly

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @Copper said in If you needed another reason to hate BMWs...:

                                    I don't have heated seats in my Cadillac.
                                    Don't worry about me, I'm ok

                                    All the same, please check in once per day just so we know you're ok.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • markM Offline
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                                      mark
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      My mechanic told me this is all a bunch of false information. Not sure what to make of it. I trust him for sure. He specializes in repairing and upgrading BMWs.

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                                      • markM Offline
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                                        mark
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        Not entirely false. It is happening in South Korea but not in the US market and BMW has no plans to bring it here. Yet. lol

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                                        • CopperC Offline
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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          https://www.wsj.com/articles/want-heated-seats-in-your-bmw-theres-a-monthly-fee-for-that-11657719715

                                          Want your BMW seats warmed? You’ll have to pay a monthly fee for that in some countries.

                                          Bayerische Motoren Werke AG BMW -2.63%▼ is charging customers extra for heated seats in countries such as the U.K., Germany, New Zealand and South Africa.

                                          Monthly fees for front-seat heating costs roughly $15 in South Africa, $17 in Germany, $18 in the U.K., and $30 in New Zealand, according to BMW websites in those countries. Customers can pay for one month, one year, three years or for unlimited service. They can also do a one-month trial in some countries.

                                          A BMW spokesman said the option to buy additional car functions “is part of a global aftersales strategy that BMW has introduced in various markets around the world, including on a small-scale basis in the U.S.” He added that the features vary among markets.

                                          In the U.S., 90% of BMW vehicles already come with heated seats, the spokesman said. The company does offer some subscription-based features for U.S. customers like for a camera in the car to record while a person is driving.

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