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WiFI range extender?

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  • KlausK Klaus

    If you are still calling that thing "master bedroom" you have way more important things to worry about than your WiFi connection, old white man!

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    George K
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    @Klaus said in WiFI range extender?:

    If you are still calling that thing "master bedroom" you have way more important things to worry about than your WiFi connection, old white man!

    You're right, but actually, if you look at the original post in the thread, I did make the proper use of the name.

    But, that was hours ago, and I'm having a Biden moment. I'm only about 7 years younger than he, you know.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @Klaus said in WiFI range extender?:

      If you are still calling that thing "master bedroom" you have way more important things to worry about than your WiFi connection, old white man!

      You're right, but actually, if you look at the original post in the thread, I did make the proper use of the name.

      But, that was hours ago, and I'm having a Biden moment. I'm only about 7 years younger than he, you know.

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      @George-K said in WiFI range extender?:

      @Klaus said in WiFI range extender?:

      If you are still calling that thing "master bedroom" you have way more important things to worry about than your WiFi connection, old white man!

      You're right, but actually, if you look at the original post in the thread, I did make the proper use of the name.

      But, that was hours ago, and I'm having a Biden moment. I'm only about 7 years younger than he, you know.

      But you know just as well as I do that there can be no mercy in these regards. Your intentions or previous behavior are irrelevant. You are hereby officially cancelled.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        @George-K said in WiFI range extender?:

        @Klaus said in WiFI range extender?:

        If you are still calling that thing "master bedroom" you have way more important things to worry about than your WiFi connection, old white man!

        You're right, but actually, if you look at the original post in the thread, I did make the proper use of the name.

        But, that was hours ago, and I'm having a Biden moment. I'm only about 7 years younger than he, you know.

        But you know just as well as I do that there can be no mercy in these regards. Your intentions or previous behavior are irrelevant. You are hereby officially cancelled.

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        George K
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        @Klaus said in WiFI range extender?:

        You are hereby officially cancelled.

        Fucking Germans.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
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          Note this “reminder” in the description of the HomePlug AV product you linked to:

          • Kindly Reminder: Powerline Adapters must be on the same electrical circuit for connectivity. Requires direct outlet plug in. Does not work with surge protectors. Appliances and devices running on the same circuit may affect powerline performance.

          That’s a very important condition to get good performance from “power line” products. If you cannot put the HomePlug devices on the same circuit, you may be better of with true wireless extenders.

          The product page you linked to shows two versions of the HomePlug AV product. It seems to me the one dubbed “wireless” will function also as a Wi-Fi access point in your bedroom, the one not so dubbed will just provide you with an Ethernet port in your bedroom.

          Good luck.

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            George K
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            At least twice in this thread, you guys have said "Good luck."

            Thanks a lot.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              I don’t think you need good luck. Just good advice from smart and knowledgeable people on this forum.

              Good luck.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                I don’t think you need good luck. Just good advice from smart and knowledgeable people on this forum.

                Good luck.

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                George K
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                @Horace said in WiFI range extender?:

                don’t think you need good luck. Just good advice from smart and knowledgeable people on this forum.

                Let me know when/if you find some. PM is OK.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  If you pull an Ethernet cable, the performance will be more predictable and luck can be less of a factor.

                  If you go with a true wireless (all Wi-Fi) extender, the performance will be less predictable and luck becomes a bit more important.

                  Last would be the “power line”stuff you linked to. Its performance will depend on the power grid built into your house, which circuit(s) you choose to use, what other devices (breakers, GFIs, surge protectors, other appliances/electronics etc.) are on that circuit, etc. Depending on your familiarity with your house’s electrical circuits, you may need more luck or less luck with the “power line” option. For most consumers today, I think they will more luck with the “power line” option than with true wireless (all Wi-Fi) extenders.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #16

                    Pulling cables is not an option.

                    At all.

                    I'll have to look and see if Bedroom 1 and Bedroom 2 are on the same circuit. I would guess they are not.

                    @Axtremus , you said "luck" at least three times in your reply.

                    Thanks, LOL.

                    I think they will more luck with the “power line” option than with true wireless (all Wi-Fi) extenders.

                    Yeah, the "Power Line" extenders are nice - I think I've used them in the past. However, all they really are is ethernet extenders. I still need a wireless connection in the master main bedroom.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Pulling cables is not an option.

                      At all.

                      I'll have to look and see if Bedroom 1 and Bedroom 2 are on the same circuit. I would guess they are not.

                      @Axtremus , you said "luck" at least three times in your reply.

                      Thanks, LOL.

                      I think they will more luck with the “power line” option than with true wireless (all Wi-Fi) extenders.

                      Yeah, the "Power Line" extenders are nice - I think I've used them in the past. However, all they really are is ethernet extenders. I still need a wireless connection in the master main bedroom.

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                      @George-K said in WiFI range extender?:

                      Pulling cables is not an option.
                      At all.

                      Time for a new condo.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Pulling cables is not an option.

                        At all.

                        I'll have to look and see if Bedroom 1 and Bedroom 2 are on the same circuit. I would guess they are not.

                        @Axtremus , you said "luck" at least three times in your reply.

                        Thanks, LOL.

                        I think they will more luck with the “power line” option than with true wireless (all Wi-Fi) extenders.

                        Yeah, the "Power Line" extenders are nice - I think I've used them in the past. However, all they really are is ethernet extenders. I still need a wireless connection in the master main bedroom.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                        #18

                        @George-K said in WiFI range extender?:

                        Yeah, the "Power Line" extenders are nice - I think I've used them in the past. However, all they really are is ethernet extenders. I still need a wireless connection in the master main bedroom.

                        On the AV1000 family of “power line” product page you linked to earlier, there is this version listed on Amazon that will also radiate Wi-Fi, something like this will bring stronger Wi-Fi into your main bedroom: “TP-Link Powerline WiFi Extender (TL-WPA7517KIT) - AV1000 Powerline Ethernet Adapter with Dual Band WiFi, OneMesh, Gigabit Port, Ethernet Over Power, Plug & Play”

                        If you move away from the “power line” option and go all wireless (all Wi-Fi), look for support for either “802.11s” or “WDS” (“wireless distribution system”) … your current Wi-Fi router and the new Wi-Fi access point you buy have to both support 802.11s/WDS for Wi-Fi extension to work.

                        If you really don’t want to get into the technical weeds and just want to buy a prepackaged system, then search for “Wi-Fi mesh” products. TP Link’s “OneMesh” series, for example, should work just fine. Netgear’s Orbi series is another possibility.

                        And depends on how much you trust Google, it’s Nest Wi-Fi mesh system is also an option, ditto Amazon’s Eero mesh system, ditto Comcast’s xFi Pod extenders. The Google, Amazon, Comcast systems require management/configuration of the system over their clouds, so there is some privacy implications that you may or may not like.

                        The Comcast xFi Pods, or the “Plume HomePass” stuff (you can Google this) may further require on-going subscription to get full functionalities. You may or may not want to deal with “subscription”.

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                          I have an old Cisco/Linksys E3200 router sitting in a drawer.

                          I'm going to investigate as to whether I can repurpose it to a repeater/extender.

                          These routers go for $10 on eBay. Hardly worth the effort of packaging, shipping, etc.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Can you just reposition the main WiFi router?

                            When we moved into our house, I tried some WiFi extenders which worked but I found the speed to be slower on anything connected to the extender, plus sometimes there was a delay for a device switching from the router to the extender. So instead, I just moved the main WiFi router to a more central place in the house and it solved all the issues. If you have the option... good luck.

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                              All that said, I assume George's main usage of the WiFi is not Ego shooters, or playing Minecraft, or watching uncompressed 4K movies, so bad latency or bandwidth may not be an issue and a range extender works well enough.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Can you just reposition the main WiFi router?

                                When we moved into our house, I tried some WiFi extenders which worked but I found the speed to be slower on anything connected to the extender, plus sometimes there was a delay for a device switching from the router to the extender. So instead, I just moved the main WiFi router to a more central place in the house and it solved all the issues. If you have the option... good luck.

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                                @89th said in WiFI range extender?:

                                Can you just reposition the main WiFi router?

                                Repositioning the router is an option. But, I used to have it in the master main bedroom. But connectivity into the living room, whichis right below Bedroom 1 in the floorpan was a problem. It might be because we have metal studs in the walls, and it was a diagonal line to the living room. Moving the router to Bedroom 1 solved that. Exactly. It's really just for casual web browsing when I'm in bed.

                                I assume George's main usage of the WiFi is not Ego shooters, or playing Minecraft, or watching uncompressed 4K movies, so bad latency or bandwidth may not be an issue and a range extender works well enough.

                                Yup, simple web browsing and stuff when I'm in bed. If I need serious bandwidth, I'll go to bedroom 1, where that German pr0n streams beautifully.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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