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Electric car choices

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  • George KG George K

    @Klaus D3 has a gasoline-powered Kona. She's in her late 30s, single, etc. Perfect car for her.

    But, as you say, it is small. And some of the materials do feel a bit on the cheap side.

    I wouldn't buy it.

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    Klaus
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    @George-K said in Electric car choices:

    @Klaus D3 has a gasoline-powered Kona. She's in her late 30s, single, etc. Perfect car for her.

    But, as you say, it is small. And some of the materials do feel a bit on the cheap side.

    I wouldn't buy it.

    Surprisingly, the Audi Q4 seems to be one of the most reasonably priced cars in that segment.

    It is only marginally more expensive than the ID.3, which is significantly smaller.

    I've taken a look at the ID.4, too - which is supposed to be similar to the Q4 (they are made in the same factory).

    That said, from what I read, the Q4 is not quite up to the usual Audi quality standards. It's not bad; it's good - but not excellent.

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      Is the incentive also available for plug-in hybrids?

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Is the incentive also available for plug-in hybrids?

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        Klaus
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        #23

        @Jolly said in Electric car choices:

        Is the incentive also available for plug-in hybrids?

        It's less.

        In total, there's about 9500 Euro subsidy for fully electric cars that are registered in 2022.

        I believe for plug-in hybrids it's about half of that.

        In 2023, it's going to be around 3000 Euros less.

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          George K
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          Speaking of "plug-in hybrids..."

          For someone like me, without access to electricity where I park, does such a vehicle make sense?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Speaking of "plug-in hybrids..."

            For someone like me, without access to electricity where I park, does such a vehicle make sense?

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            @George-K said in Electric car choices:

            For someone like me, without access to electricity where I park, does such a vehicle make sense?

            No.

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            • KlausK Offline
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              #26

              One salesweasel tried to talk me into a leasing contract.

              In my life, I've so far always paid cars cash and have also intended that for this car.

              The rationale she gave would be a protection against the car loosing value more quickly than the leasing rates.

              I'm not sure whether that's BS or not.

              Another thing that might be in favor of leasing is inflation - if inflation continues or gets even worse, it might be good to delay payments.

              Thoughts?

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              • KlausK Klaus

                One salesweasel tried to talk me into a leasing contract.

                In my life, I've so far always paid cars cash and have also intended that for this car.

                The rationale she gave would be a protection against the car loosing value more quickly than the leasing rates.

                I'm not sure whether that's BS or not.

                Another thing that might be in favor of leasing is inflation - if inflation continues or gets even worse, it might be good to delay payments.

                Thoughts?

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                Wim
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                @Klaus leasing can be a good choice provided your mileage is higher than average AND if you intend to lease a new car within 3 or 4 years at the same firm (higher discounts)

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
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                  OK, pulled the trigger today.

                  We are going to get a Hyundai Ioniq 5.

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                  The 8 year warranty made the difference to us in the end.

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                    Looks nice! Did you lease or buy? (I'm always in favor of buy, but I keep cars 13-20 years and I detest payments)

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      #30

                      Buy.

                      I detest monthly payments, too, unless they are investments in securities 🙂

                      Looks like I'll have to get a wallbox soon.

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        Buy.

                        I detest monthly payments, too, unless they are investments in securities 🙂

                        Looks like I'll have to get a wallbox soon.

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                          Copper
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                          Nice looking car

                          Thank you for saving our environment.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            Nice looking car

                            Thank you for saving our environment.

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                            Klaus
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                            @Copper said in Electric car choices:

                            Nice looking car

                            Thank you for saving our environment.

                            No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              @Copper said in Electric car choices:

                              Nice looking car

                              Thank you for saving our environment.

                              No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

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                              @Klaus said in Electric car choices:

                              No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

                              Your self-awareness is admirable.

                              Congratulations, by the way.

                              When do you take delivery?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @Copper said in Electric car choices:

                                Nice looking car

                                Thank you for saving our environment.

                                No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

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                                @Klaus said in Electric car choices:

                                @Copper said in Electric car choices:

                                Nice looking car

                                Thank you for saving our environment.

                                No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

                                In the winner community, we have a name for those people. Losers. I hate them so much.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Klaus said in Electric car choices:

                                  No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

                                  Your self-awareness is admirable.

                                  Congratulations, by the way.

                                  When do you take delivery?

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                                  @George-K said in Electric car choices:

                                  When do you take delivery?

                                  Around April '23.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @Klaus said in Electric car choices:

                                    @Copper said in Electric car choices:

                                    Nice looking car

                                    Thank you for saving our environment.

                                    No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

                                    In the winner community, we have a name for those people. Losers. I hate them so much.

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                                    Klaus
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                                    @Horace said in Electric car choices:

                                    @Klaus said in Electric car choices:

                                    @Copper said in Electric car choices:

                                    Nice looking car

                                    Thank you for saving our environment.

                                    No, I don't think at all that I'm doing something for the environment. If you add all the various effects together, the car is at best neutral compared to a traditional car. I'm just an above-average-earning leech who profits from a highly subsidized car paid for, to a large degree, from taxes by people who could never afford a car like that.

                                    In the winner community, we have a name for those people. Losers. I hate them so much.

                                    👍

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                                      89th
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                                      Joke's on you! The speedometer is in MPH! Suck itttttttttttt

                                      Just kidding, that car looks really cool.

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                                        Mik
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                                        OK, now that the car is settled, can we get some emojis that aren't embarrassing to use?

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          OK, now that the car is settled, can we get some emojis that aren't embarrassing to use?

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                                          Klaus
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                                          @Mik said in Electric car choices:

                                          OK, now that the car is settled, can we get some emojis that aren't embarrassing to use?

                                          How about the undefined emoji?

                                          What do you think, undefined?

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