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  • JollyJ Offline
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10969221/Raging-inflation-FAR-WORSE-told-ANDY-PUZDER-JIM-TALENT.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      [@Doctor-Phibes ]

      Yeah, but it’s The Mail, so sod off…

      [/@Doctor-Phibes ]

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Facts is facts.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          @George-K said in 16% Inflation:

          [@Doctor-Phibes ]

          Yeah, but it’s The Mail, so sod off…

          [/@Doctor-Phibes ]

          Statistics never lie.

          I was only joking

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Are these wrong?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Are these wrong?

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              @Jolly said in 16% Inflation:

              Are these wrong?

              I have no idea. Obviously, governments have a habit of re-defining things that make them look bad. Newspapers have a habit of reporting things in a way that make governments they don't like look bad and/or selling newpapers.

              I do know that neither the government nor the DM are particularly trustworthy sources.

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                IOW, they're right.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Are these wrong?

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                  @Jolly said in 16% Inflation:

                  Are these wrong?

                  Yes. We talked about the “shadow stats” folks in 2008

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @Jolly said in 16% Inflation:

                    Are these wrong?

                    Yes. We talked about the “shadow stats” folks in 2008

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                    @jon-nyc said in 16% Inflation:

                    @Jolly said in 16% Inflation:

                    Are these wrong?

                    Yes. We talked about the “shadow stats” folks in 2008

                    Yes, of course we all remember that discussion from just 14 years ago.

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                      They make up their own index. If you do that you can make inflation whatever you want it to be.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        IOW, they're right.

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                        @Jolly said in 16% Inflation:

                        IOW, they're right.

                        Like I said, I honestly have no idea.

                        They could easily be massaging the massaged statistics.

                        In the words of Mr. Simon, a man believes what he wants to believe, and disregards the rest.

                        I was only joking

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                          It's actually simple. Just take the top 5 most common things you buy and see how much the price has changed. Then see how much the hourly wage has changed at a local store nearby. If those numbers don't align to your desired outcome, keep selecting other products and stores until your opinion is validated. Easy! Sometimes I think I should've been an economist.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            They make up their own index. If you do that you can make inflation whatever you want it to be.

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                            @jon-nyc said in 16% Inflation:

                            They make up their own index. If you do that you can make inflation whatever you want it to be.

                            Are they using the same index that was used in 1980?

                            According to the graph, we’ve been running at high inflation rates the last 40 years and the current increase is only a slight increase and not a nearly 300% increase.

                            Still, the 16% rate does match the numbers that the Agricultural Board put out the other day…

                            The Brad

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                              Another alternative is to say:

                              "Blimey, but things are expensive. I reckon inflation is about 20%! Personally, I blame immigration and poofters! The Daily Mail should do an article on this! "

                              I was only joking

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                                Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in 16% Inflation:

                                  Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

                                  It's Daily Mail readers, so it could be accurate.

                                  Brylcreem is really freaking expensive nowadays.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in 16% Inflation:

                                    Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

                                    It was stated in the article that they were using the old basket. What items would you disagree with?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      @jon-nyc said in 16% Inflation:

                                      Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

                                      It's Daily Mail readers, so it could be accurate.

                                      Brylcreem is really freaking expensive nowadays.

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in 16% Inflation:

                                      @jon-nyc said in 16% Inflation:

                                      Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

                                      It's Daily Mail readers, so it could be accurate.

                                      Brylcreem is really freaking expensive nowadays.

                                      At least they can read.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in 16% Inflation:

                                        @jon-nyc said in 16% Inflation:

                                        Yes they use a half century old basket of goods as if consumer behavior is unchanged.

                                        It's Daily Mail readers, so it could be accurate.

                                        Brylcreem is really freaking expensive nowadays.

                                        At least they can read.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Jolly said in 16% Inflation:

                                        At least their carers can read.

                                        FIFY

                                        I was only joking

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                                          You wished you had enough money for a carer.

                                          Or hell, anybody who even cared....

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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