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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    #6

    wiki

    In Brazil, all firearms are required to be registered with the minimum age for gun ownership being 25. It is generally illegal to carry a gun outside a residence, and a special permit granting the right to do so is granted to certain groups, such as law enforcement officers.

    Gun deaths by country

    Brazil — 49,436
    United States — 37,038

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #7

      Maybe if you stopped allowing Brazilians into the US, you'd have less gun deaths.

      I was only joking

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #8

        Sorry, but the buck stops at SCOTUS.

        This is a glaring example why we need to A) fumigate Justice, and B) get it the hell out of D.C.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

          89th8 Offline
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          89th
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          #9

          @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

          I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

          Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

          472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #10

            Canada made the Top 30?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • 89th8 89th

              @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

              I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

              Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

              472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #11

              @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

              Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

              I saw that, but I didn't want to rub it in.

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              • 89th8 89th

                @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

                Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

                472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #12

                @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

                Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

                472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

                Yes, and most if not all of the countries at the top of that list would almost certainly have been referred to by an erudite and sophisticated former POTUS in scatological terms.

                Whether you view this as a success or not is of course up to you.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  Freedom has a price.

                  Seriously, take certain neighborhoods out of the stats and things would look much, much different.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Freedom has a price.

                    Seriously, take certain neighborhoods out of the stats and things would look much, much different.

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #14

                    @Jolly said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                    Seriously, take certain neighborhoods out of the stats and things would look much, much different.

                    Well, yeah, if you only count the areas without gun violence, then there isn't going to be a lot of recorded gun violence.

                    Based on that logic, we could remove the top 15 nations from the list, and put the US as number 1!

                    I was only joking

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                      89th
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                      #15

                      BTW I am not ashamed to admit I googled "where is Eswatini". Figured it sounded like a Star Wars planet.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        BTW I am not ashamed to admit I googled "where is Eswatini". Figured it sounded like a Star Wars planet.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #16

                        @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                        BTW I am not ashamed to admit I googled "where is Eswatini". Figured it sounded like a Star Wars planet.

                        It's actually a martini made with cheap Bourbon.

                        (Tastes like shithole country)

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Jolly said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                          Seriously, take certain neighborhoods out of the stats and things would look much, much different.

                          Well, yeah, if you only count the areas without gun violence, then there isn't going to be a lot of recorded gun violence.

                          Based on that logic, we could remove the top 15 nations from the list, and put the US as number 1!

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                          Jolly
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                          #17

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                          @Jolly said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                          Seriously, take certain neighborhoods out of the stats and things would look much, much different.

                          Well, yeah, if you only count the areas without gun violence, then there isn't going to be a lot of recorded gun violence.

                          Based on that logic, we could remove the top 15 nations from the list, and put the US as number 1!

                          Yes, but then the violence is not a societal problem, but a very bad problem for slim sections of society.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Copper
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                            #18

                            2015

                            https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Heat-map-of-gun-homicide-rate-per-10-000-population-by-county-in-the-contiguous-US-2015_fig1_337997106

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                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by Copper
                              #19

                              Those darned poor people.

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                              https://www.brookings.edu/2022/04/21/mapping-gun-violence-a-closer-look-at-the-intersection-between-place-and-gun-homicides-in-four-cities/

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

                                Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

                                472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

                                Yes, and most if not all of the countries at the top of that list would almost certainly have been referred to by an erudite and sophisticated former POTUS in scatological terms.

                                Whether you view this as a success or not is of course up to you.

                                LuFins DadL Offline
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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

                                Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

                                472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

                                Yes, and most if not all of the countries at the top of that list would almost certainly have been referred to by an erudite and sophisticated former POTUS in scatological terms.

                                Whether you view this as a success or not is of course up to you.

                                Did you know that if you take out African American vs African American gang violence, that the UK has a higher murder rate than the US? So what do you the problem is?

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                  @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                  I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

                                  Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

                                  472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

                                  Yes, and most if not all of the countries at the top of that list would almost certainly have been referred to by an erudite and sophisticated former POTUS in scatological terms.

                                  Whether you view this as a success or not is of course up to you.

                                  Did you know that if you take out African American vs African American gang violence, that the UK has a higher murder rate than the US? So what do you the problem is?

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  #21

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                  Did you know that if you take out African American vs African American gang violence, that the UK has a higher murder rate than the US?

                                  I don't doubt that for a second.

                                  Gotta source for that?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                    @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                    I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

                                    Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

                                    472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

                                    Yes, and most if not all of the countries at the top of that list would almost certainly have been referred to by an erudite and sophisticated former POTUS in scatological terms.

                                    Whether you view this as a success or not is of course up to you.

                                    Did you know that if you take out African American vs African American gang violence, that the UK has a higher murder rate than the US? So what do you the problem is?

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                    #22

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                    @89th said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                    I'm guessing the rest of the world must have a lot less criminals, based on shooting deaths elsewhere.

                                    Gun Deaths (not suicide) per 100k... top 30 countries

                                    472f6a34-24c1-46dd-91fb-9deb088663fa-image.png

                                    Yes, and most if not all of the countries at the top of that list would almost certainly have been referred to by an erudite and sophisticated former POTUS in scatological terms.

                                    Whether you view this as a success or not is of course up to you.

                                    Did you know that if you take out African American vs African American gang violence, that the UK has a higher murder rate than the US? So what do you the problem is?

                                    Did you know that if you pick all the cherries off a tree that you still have a cherry tree?

                                    If you're going to compare the two countries, you probably need to remove UK gang violence from the equation, too. Amazingly enough, Britain isn't one large homogenous mix either.

                                    Did you know that the US suicide rate is roughly double that of the UK? Which is going some if you consider the food and the weather.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
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                                      #23

                                      Does this mean Brits are too damn lazy to even kill themselves?😄

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                        Did you know that if you take out African American vs African American gang violence, that the UK has a higher murder rate than the US?

                                        I don't doubt that for a second.

                                        Gotta source for that?

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #24

                                        @George-K said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in DOJ to SCOTUS: "We respectfully disagree.":

                                        Did you know that if you take out African American vs African American gang violence, that the UK has a higher murder rate than the US?

                                        I don't doubt that for a second.

                                        Gotta source for that?

                                        Yes. Myself. I ran the numbers once. Good luck finding an actual study.

                                        I should make one correction, I didn’t remove black on black gang violence, I normalized it against the average.

                                        The Brad

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                                          Definitely a cultural thing. I agree with @Doctor-Phibes The countries listed above the US in the death rate by guns are not by anyones idea a well adjusted first world country. Not sure that is the countries I would want to be associated in that regard.

                                          Take a look at the countries which are at the bottom of the list

                                          Spain
                                          Austria
                                          Switzerland
                                          Germany
                                          Norway
                                          Singapore
                                          (through to)
                                          Japan

                                          WHich is the better list to be associated with?

                                          Side note: On average, about 40+ people in the US are died EVERY DAY because of gun violence. In Japan, there were 40 deaths due to gun violence over 8 YEARS!!

                                          I can say with confidence that the people of Japan do not feel less safe because they cannot walk around with a gun.

                                          :woman-shrugging:

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