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Who here thinks this stops at Ukraine?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #19

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
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      https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1714852/russia-s-duma-mulls-revoking-recognition-of-lithuanian-independence

      A draft bill submitted to the Russian State Duma calls for repealing the resolution of the Soviet Union State Council “On Recognising the Independence of the Republic of Lithuania”.

      The bill was drafted by a member of the United Russia party, Evgeny Fedorov.

      In the explanatory note, Fedorov said the Russian Federation was recognised as the legal successor of the Soviet Union. He also noted that in March 1991, a referendum was held in Russia, expressing support in preserving the Soviet Union as a single state.

      But in September the same year, the Soviet Union State Council, chaired by Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, adopted a resolution “On Recognising the Independence of the Republic of Lithuania”. Fedorov claimed the resolution was illegal.

      The draft bill follows a May resolution by the Lithuanian parliament, Seimas, recognising Russia’s war against Ukraine as genocide and Russia as a terrorist state.

      Lithuania declared independence in March 1990. Months later in January 1991, Soviet forces attempted to overthrow the government. The last Soviet troops left Lithuania in 1993.

      Fedorov already questioned the legitimacy of Lithuania's independence in 2015. At the time, he and another Duma deputy, Anton Romanov, wrote a letter to the Russian prosecutor’s office, saying that Lithuania's independence had been recognised by an “unconstitutional body”.

      The prosecutor’s office then launched an investigation, which was decried as “a legal, moral, and political absurdity” by the then Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevičius.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #21

        I really don't think they want to go there.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          I really don't think they want to go there.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #22

          @Jolly said in Who here thinks this stops at Ukraine?:

          I really don't think they want to go there.

          Yes. But saber-rattling has its place.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • bachophileB Offline
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            bachophile
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            #23

            The difference is Russia always saw Ukraine and Georgia as part of cultural great Russia. The baltics were never really Russian. They were what they are. Baltic states more culturally European than Russian.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #24

              Probably saber rattling, as mentioned.

              But it's getting traction in the Russian media:

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                Probably saber rattling, as mentioned.

                But it's getting traction in the Russian media:

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
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                #25

                @George-K

                Sabre rattling perhaps but the Kremlin is not at all happy with Lithuania:

                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/20/panic-buying-in-kaliningrad-as-lithuania-bans-rail-cargo-from-russia-a78044

                We’ll see how this plays out.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @George-K

                  Sabre rattling perhaps but the Kremlin is not at all happy with Lithuania:

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/20/panic-buying-in-kaliningrad-as-lithuania-bans-rail-cargo-from-russia-a78044

                  We’ll see how this plays out.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @Renauda I saw that the other day, yesterday I believe. I'm sure the talk is all about retaliation.

                  But, NATO...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Renauda I saw that the other day, yesterday I believe. I'm sure the talk is all about retaliation.

                    But, NATO...

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
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                    #27

                    @George-K

                    Yes, that is a credible deterrent.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #28

                      Let us hope so.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        #29

                        Based on the seeing in the Ukraine, could Russia possibly start a second "front"? Seems like they are having enough problems with the one in Ukraine. I don't know if the capabilities are there to do another parallel war.

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                        • LarryL Larry

                          The US is sending fighter jets to Poland to let Ukrainian pilots go to Poland and fly them back into Ukraine. Whether you agree with doing that or not, that is the US getting directly involved in a hot war with Russia. Also, since Poland is also a NATO member, this brings NATO into the war. This act alone makes NATO and the US both direct participants in a hot war between Russia and Ukraine, and now it's WWIII.

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                          @Larry said in Who here thinks this stops at Ukraine?:

                          The US is sending fighter jets to Poland to let Ukrainian pilots go to Poland and fly them back into Ukraine. Whether you agree with doing that or not, that is the US getting directly involved in a hot war with Russia. Also, since Poland is also a NATO member, this brings NATO into the war. This act alone makes NATO and the US both direct participants in a hot war between Russia and Ukraine, and now it's WWIII.

                          Maybe it does according to Newsmax or RT, but not by the many decades of Cold War historical precedent. We armed each other’s enemies all the time.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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