Can Trump win?
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We may already be in a recession. If not, it's certainly coming. Inflation is close to 10% (more if figured the old way). Gas is approaching ludicrous prices.
Trump certainly hurt his brand and image during the last 60 days of his Presidency, but if America is suffering through recession and stagflation, can nostalgia propel Trump back into the Oval Office?
And if elected, what would be his actions?
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I think someone else should be able to cherry pick some good parts of a Trump platform but without the pathology and social backlash that we all end up paying for. That said, I’d be rooting for him to win, should he get the nomination. But if you thought Trump supporters were stigmatized in 2016 and 2020, you ain’t seen nothing yet. TDS would become an accepted part of what it is to be a decent American and they would gleefully exact their vengeance at any opportunity, public or private.
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Can Trump win? Yes. Like in 2016, he could take advantage of the primary process and skate through using a plurality of votes until he's the last man standing. Then, even before inflation/recession, Biden was too old to run again, Kamala is too cackle-y (and cringey) to win, so the question is... who would Trump run against. If weak enough, or heck...if Kamala... Trump could win.
@Horace good points. Although easy to call it TDS (again, I would've voted for Trump as of January 2020) for folks like me (conservative, etc) I think there is a legit reason why Trump should never be supported again. A President refusing to accept his election loss is unequivocally THE cardinal sin in our democracy, and should be pariah'd accordingly. Yes, that's now a verb.
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The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Education is extremely important.
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If he does, let’s start the shooting early, okay?
My guess is DeSantis.
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If he does, let’s start the shooting early, okay?
My guess is DeSantis.
@LuFins-Dad said in Can Trump win?:
If he does, let’s start the shooting early, okay?
My guess is DeSantis.
Maybe.
Depends on the primary process.
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The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
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@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Wouldn't be boring, though...
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@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
@Copper said in Can Trump win?:
@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
A primary where Trump loses gives nothing to the leftist mob IMO. It'll also give us a chance to watch the never Trumpers make it clear whether or not they are really just never Republicans going forward.
Education is extremely important.
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@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
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@Copper said in Can Trump win?:
@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
A primary where Trump loses gives nothing to the leftist mob IMO. It'll also give us a chance to watch the never Trumpers make it clear whether or not they are really just never Republicans going forward.
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
@Copper said in Can Trump win?:
@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
@Horace said in Can Trump win?:
The righteous rage and indignation at Trump would be overwhelming to the typical leftist American. They'll tear down the country. They'll sacrifice their own children. I get the nihilistic fascination with watching it happen, but I'd prefer to live in some peace, amongst the barely hinged apes, if at all possible.
Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
A primary where Trump loses gives nothing to the leftist mob IMO. It'll also give us a chance to watch the never Trumpers make it clear whether or not they are really just never Republicans going forward.
Expanding on this, the Trump stigma will be relentlessly applied to the next Republican nominee no matter what, moreso if that nominee manages to capitalize on any of the anti-woke sentiment that Trump rode to the white house. This will present a conundrum for Never-Trump conservatives. The mainstream leftist mob won't accept anybody who publicly supports any Republican president going forward. They'll treat you just like they treated Trump supporters. They have a taste for it now. My guess is, there will always be some righteous principled reason for most of these Never-Trump conservatives to never again publicly support a Republican president. Now, who they actually vote for, that'll always be a different question.
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@Copper said in Can Trump win?:
Mik: Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Copper: Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
Worse how?
@Catseye3 said in Can Trump win?:
@Copper said in Can Trump win?:
Mik: Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Copper: Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
Worse how?
Worse because they wish to discard the fundamental principles this nation was built on. They, like the communists in early 20th century Russia and China, think they have a better idea. Only thing is, it doesn't work, because it ignores the natural imperative to compete for primate status.
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@Catseye3 said in Can Trump win?:
@Copper said in Can Trump win?:
Mik: Agreed. Another Trump presidency is not good for the country.
Copper: Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
Worse how?
Worse because they wish to discard the fundamental principles this nation was built on. They, like the communists in early 20th century Russia and China, think they have a better idea. Only thing is, it doesn't work, because it ignores the natural imperative to compete for primate status.
@Mik said in Can Trump win?:
Copper: Even worse would be giving in to the leftist mob.
Cats: Worse how?
Mik: Worse because they wish to discard the fundamental principles this nation was built on.
They haven't succeeded yet. No one can predict whether they will; I believe they won't. If they do manage it, it's a status that won't last long. Its failing won't be pretty, though.
So that still doesn't clarify why that mob which might succeed would be worse than a Trump who does. But it's okay. Even the most well thought out argument for or against has no predictive value. Except that both scenarios suck balls. That we can predict fo' schizzle.
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Putting every other fact about Trump aside. If he won, he'd still be President in 2028. He'd be 82.
@xenon said in Can Trump win?:
Putting every other fact about Trump aside. If he won, he'd still be President in 2028. He'd be 82.
And that's the thing that people aren't talking about, but should.
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@xenon said in Can Trump win?:
Putting every other fact about Trump aside. If he won, he'd still be President in 2028. He'd be 82.
And that's the thing that people aren't talking about, but should.
@George-K said in Can Trump win?:
@xenon said in Can Trump win?:
Putting every other fact about Trump aside. If he won, he'd still be President in 2028. He'd be 82.
And that's the thing that people aren't talking about, but should.
Legitimate point.
