Inexcusable
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Inexcusable:
@Ivorythumper 'Intimidation' can get a little tricky to prove or disprove.
Is shouting 'MURDERER' at a pregnant woman going into a clinic considered intimidation? There's no threat involved.
Why don't you go look at a real protest outside your neighborhood abortion clinic and report back?
@Ivorythumper said in Inexcusable:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Inexcusable:
@Ivorythumper 'Intimidation' can get a little tricky to prove or disprove.
Is shouting 'MURDERER' at a pregnant woman going into a clinic considered intimidation? There's no threat involved.
Why don't you go look at a real protest outside your neighborhood abortion clinic and report back?
Like with most things, I imagine the behaviour of different people varies. I'm sure some people are very polite and respectful, and I'm fairly sure others are less so.
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@Ivorythumper said in Inexcusable:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Inexcusable:
@Ivorythumper 'Intimidation' can get a little tricky to prove or disprove.
Is shouting 'MURDERER' at a pregnant woman going into a clinic considered intimidation? There's no threat involved.
Why don't you go look at a real protest outside your neighborhood abortion clinic and report back?
Like with most things, I imagine the behaviour of different people varies. I'm sure some people are very polite and respectful, and I'm fairly sure others are less so.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Inexcusable:
@Ivorythumper said in Inexcusable:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Inexcusable:
@Ivorythumper 'Intimidation' can get a little tricky to prove or disprove.
Is shouting 'MURDERER' at a pregnant woman going into a clinic considered intimidation? There's no threat involved.
Why don't you go look at a real protest outside your neighborhood abortion clinic and report back?
Like with most things, I imagine the behaviour of different people varies. I'm sure some people are very polite and respectful, and I'm fairly sure others are less so.
You can easily test it -- everyone I know who actively protest abortion clinics keep more a "witness of presence", typically praying rosaries, offering supportive information, not aggressively hectoring or confronting. Seriously, drive by your neighborhood abortion clinic on their typical service day, when protestors are most likely to congregate, and report back. I think you'll find the "shouting 'MURDERER' at a pregnant woman going into a clinic" is a cartoonish stereotype.
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Seeing interesting analyses that the anti-picketing law is not constitutional under the first amendment since it is content based, not just 'time place and manner' based. Imagine the oddity of challenging it in this case? Would the justices need to recuse themselves?
At any rate no one has been arrested on it so it doesn't look like it will be employed.
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Man with weapon detained near Brett Kavanaugh’s home
A California man carrying at least one weapon near Brett M. Kavanaugh’s Maryland home has been taken into custody by police after telling officers he wanted to kill the Supreme Court justice, according to people familiar with the investigation.
The man, described as being in his mid-20s, was found to be carrying at least one weapon and burglary tools, these people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. Police were apparently notified that the person might pose a threat to the justice, but it was not immediately clear who provided the initial tip, these people said. The man apparently did not make it onto Kavanaugh’s property in Montgomery County but was stopped on a nearby street, these people said.
Two people familiar with the investigation said the initial evidence indicates that the man was angry about the leaked draft of an opinion by the Supreme Court signaling that the court is preparing to overturn Roe. v. Wade, the 49-year-old decision that guaranteed the constitutional right to have an abortion. He was also angry over a recent spate of mass shootings, these people said.
The man was arrested at about 1:50 a.m. today, Supreme Court spokeswoman Patricia McCabe said in a statement.
“The man was armed and made threats against Justice Kavanaugh,” McCabe said. “He was transported to Montgomery County Police 2nd District.”Funny how that worked out.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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It would be funny watching the fake sadness from tribal lefties if Biden got to nominate a replacement for an assassinated republican appointee.
@Horace said in Inexcusable:
It would be funny watching the fake sadness from tribal lefties if Biden got to nominate a replacement for an assassinated republican appointee.
I don't know if funny is the operative word, but it would damn sure be a show...
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Man with weapon detained near Brett Kavanaugh’s home
A California man carrying at least one weapon near Brett M. Kavanaugh’s Maryland home has been taken into custody by police after telling officers he wanted to kill the Supreme Court justice, according to people familiar with the investigation.
The man, described as being in his mid-20s, was found to be carrying at least one weapon and burglary tools, these people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. Police were apparently notified that the person might pose a threat to the justice, but it was not immediately clear who provided the initial tip, these people said. The man apparently did not make it onto Kavanaugh’s property in Montgomery County but was stopped on a nearby street, these people said.
Two people familiar with the investigation said the initial evidence indicates that the man was angry about the leaked draft of an opinion by the Supreme Court signaling that the court is preparing to overturn Roe. v. Wade, the 49-year-old decision that guaranteed the constitutional right to have an abortion. He was also angry over a recent spate of mass shootings, these people said.
The man was arrested at about 1:50 a.m. today, Supreme Court spokeswoman Patricia McCabe said in a statement.
“The man was armed and made threats against Justice Kavanaugh,” McCabe said. “He was transported to Montgomery County Police 2nd District.”Funny how that worked out.
@George-K said in Inexcusable:
Man with weapon detained near Brett Kavanaugh’s home
A California man carrying at least one weapon near Brett M. Kavanaugh’s Maryland home has been taken into custody by police after telling officers he wanted to kill the Supreme Court justice, according to people familiar with the investigation.
The man, described as being in his mid-20s, was found to be carrying at least one weapon and burglary tools, these people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. Police were apparently notified that the person might pose a threat to the justice, but it was not immediately clear who provided the initial tip, these people said. The man apparently did not make it onto Kavanaugh’s property in Montgomery County but was stopped on a nearby street, these people said.
Two people familiar with the investigation said the initial evidence indicates that the man was angry about the leaked draft of an opinion by the Supreme Court signaling that the court is preparing to overturn Roe. v. Wade, the 49-year-old decision that guaranteed the constitutional right to have an abortion. He was also angry over a recent spate of mass shootings, these people said.
The man was arrested at about 1:50 a.m. today, Supreme Court spokeswoman Patricia McCabe said in a statement.
“The man was armed and made threats against Justice Kavanaugh,” McCabe said. “He was transported to Montgomery County Police 2nd District.”Funny how that worked out.
So what’s the score after that right wing nut went after that judge?
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Charged with attempted murder.
Perhaps someone who knows the law better than I do can explain this.
Do threats and possession of lethal weapons constitute attempted murder, or does one actually have to commit a violent act?
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Charged with attempted murder.
Perhaps someone who knows the law better than I do can explain this.
Do threats and possession of lethal weapons constitute attempted murder, or does one actually have to commit a violent act?
@George-K said in Inexcusable:
Do threats and possession of lethal weapons constitute attempted murder, or does one actually have to commit a violent act?
Revolves around intent and whether the weapon was discharged. Intent is there and a weapon is present, along with other stuff. So, the charge is appropriate. If he had taken a potshot at Kavanaugh or actually tried to harm him with some other deadly weapon, the sentence could ratchet all the way up to life.
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So, this is the mob justice of the left, going forward. Make republican appointed supreme court justices' lives as unhappy as possible, within the law. That's probably pretty unhappy. Thanks, righteous douche bags. We'll wait for your outrage and law changes if/when it ever happens to liberal judges.
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Bill that would increase security for families of Supreme Court justices is stalled in House.
A bipartisan Senate-passed bill that would expand security protection to the immediate family members of Supreme Court justices has stalled in the House, raising questions from senators on why it hasn't passed in the wake of an arrest outside the home of a Supreme Court justice.
The questions come hours after an armed man was arrested near Brett Kavanaugh's Maryland home after making threats against the Supreme Court justice, according to a court spokesperson.
The House hasn't taken up the bill, which passed the Senate by unanimous consent in May.
The legislation must be passed by the House before going to President Joe Biden's desk for his signature.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell reacted angrily to the report about Kavanaugh's home on the Senate floor Wednesday.
"If these reports are correct, an assassination attempt against a sitting justice, or something close to it," McConnell said on the floor. "This is exactly the kind of event that many feared that terrible breach of the Court's rules and norms could fuel."
The top Senate Republican also complained the House had not quickly approved the Senate-passed bill.
Coons told CNN on Wednesday he is still working with the House on a compromise to enhance security, which could include extending protection to clerks and other staff.
"I've actually been engaging with several House members about how we come to a negotiated compromise on that bill and move it forward promptly," said Coons, noting that the main sticking point is "a relatively simple issue of whether or not the scope of it also includes clerks and other staff."
