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The platinum jubilee

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  • bachophileB Offline
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    bachophile
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    quite a remarkable collections of photographs

    when everyone is so deeply partisan, and when monarchies seem so anachronistic, can we agree that Elizabeth II is really quite an extraordinary monarch?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/world/europe/queen-elizabeth-platinum-jubilee-photos.html

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    • MikM Away
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      Absolutely. But the rest of their government is a dumpster fire.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Absolutely. But the rest of their government is a dumpster fire.

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        Renauda
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        @Mik

        Not many, if any, governments that are not dumpster fires right now. Some smoulder, others flame, all are fighting various bonfires that could get out of control.

        At the end of the day, the institutions that make up the British government are doing quite well. As well as any other and, far better than most.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Away
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          Hmmph. Monarchist. 😆

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Hmmph. Monarchist. 😆

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            Renauda
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            @Mik said in The platinum jubilee:

            Hmmph. Monarchist. 😆

            Loyally and unreservedly to the British Crown until my last breath.

            Elbows up!

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            • bachophileB bachophile

              quite a remarkable collections of photographs

              when everyone is so deeply partisan, and when monarchies seem so anachronistic, can we agree that Elizabeth II is really quite an extraordinary monarch?

              https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/world/europe/queen-elizabeth-platinum-jubilee-photos.html

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              @bachophile said in The platinum jubilee:

              Elizabeth II is really quite an extraordinary monarch

              Indeed, and not just because of her longevity on the throne.

              The role of the monarchy is nothing like it was centuries ago, of course, but it's wonderful to have a person who defines grace and elegance in that role.

              Will Charles be the same?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @bachophile said in The platinum jubilee:

                Elizabeth II is really quite an extraordinary monarch

                Indeed, and not just because of her longevity on the throne.

                The role of the monarchy is nothing like it was centuries ago, of course, but it's wonderful to have a person who defines grace and elegance in that role.

                Will Charles be the same?

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                Renauda
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                @George-K

                He has a hard act to follow but he knows his duty. He will, as an “Englishman”and Prince of Wales, do his duty when the time comes.

                Elbows up!

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                  @George-K

                  He has a hard act to follow but he knows his duty. He will, as an “Englishman”and Prince of Wales, do his duty when the time comes.

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                  @Renauda said in The platinum jubilee:

                  @George-K

                  He has a hard act to follow but he knows his duty. He will, as an “Englishman”and Prince of Wales, do his duty when the time comes.

                  I was discussing the Royals (does that need to be capitalized?) with my bride today.

                  What is the general feeling toward Phillip in the Commonwealth. Also, what's the feeling toward Camilla?

                  When Charles ascends to the throne, what will her title be? I assume she won't be queen, right?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Renauda said in The platinum jubilee:

                    @George-K

                    He has a hard act to follow but he knows his duty. He will, as an “Englishman”and Prince of Wales, do his duty when the time comes.

                    I was discussing the Royals (does that need to be capitalized?) with my bride today.

                    What is the general feeling toward Phillip in the Commonwealth. Also, what's the feeling toward Camilla?

                    When Charles ascends to the throne, what will her title be? I assume she won't be queen, right?

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                    @George-K

                    Don’t really understand the question about Philip.

                    As for Camilla she will remain Her Royal Highness Duchess of Cornwall as King’s consort. She never be regarded as Queen any more than Philip was regarded King. He was a Prince by birth and his ranking was that of a Royal. Camilla was not of royal pedigree and Charles’ marriage to her is therefore morganatic.

                    In earlier times William’s marriage to Kate would have been considered morganatic, as would Charles’ marriage to Diana, but the Queen cleared all the necessary obstacles for their offspring to inherit Royal ranking.

                    Elbows up!

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                      @George-K

                      Don’t really understand the question about Philip.

                      As for Camilla she will remain Her Royal Highness Duchess of Cornwall as King’s consort. She never be regarded as Queen any more than Philip was regarded King. He was a Prince by birth and his ranking was that of a Royal. Camilla was not of royal pedigree and Charles’ marriage to her is therefore morganatic.

                      In earlier times William’s marriage to Kate would have been considered morganatic, as would Charles’ marriage to Diana, but the Queen cleared all the necessary obstacles for their offspring to inherit Royal ranking.

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                      @Renauda said in The platinum jubilee:

                      Don’t really understand the question about Phillip.

                      Elizabeth seems to be universally beloved.

                      Is Phillip?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Renauda said in The platinum jubilee:

                        Don’t really understand the question about Phillip.

                        Elizabeth seems to be universally beloved.

                        Is Phillip?

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                        @George-K said in The platinum jubilee:

                        Phillip

                        People have lost interest in Phillip

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

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                          @Renauda said in The platinum jubilee:

                          Don’t really understand the question about Phillip.

                          Elizabeth seems to be universally beloved.

                          Is Phillip?

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                          @George-K said in The platinum jubilee:

                          @Renauda said in The platinum jubilee:

                          Don’t really understand the question about Phillip.

                          Elizabeth seems to be universally beloved.

                          Is Phillip?

                          He was never beloved. His station in life was always that of a step behind the Queen. He understood that - or better, came to understand that.

                          He was however highly respected among Commonwealth military circles. He was always most comfortable and at his best among the military.

                          Elbows up!

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                            bachophile
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                            Ok learned a new word

                            morganatic.

                            I can honestly say in all my 63 years I have never come across that word.

                            morgasm yes. had those lots of times. But not morganatic.

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                                Larry
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                                Imagine..... 70 years on the throne...

                                If I sit on the throne more than 20 minutes my legs go to sleep.....

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                                  I'm not sure I buy the 'mobility issues' line they're peddling about the Queen.

                                  If anyone is capable of moving in all directions it's her.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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