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  • G George K
    2 May 2022, 11:30

    Interesting. The strike that killed #10 had a different target in mind.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 5 May 2022, 14:30 last edited by
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    @George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:

    Interesting. The strike that killed #10 had a different target in mind.

    Is it just me, or do a significant number of top Russian generals look like raging alcoholics?

    I was only joking

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      5 May 2022, 14:30

      @George-K said in Top Russian General Killed:

      Interesting. The strike that killed #10 had a different target in mind.

      Is it just me, or do a significant number of top Russian generals look like raging alcoholics?

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      Renauda
      wrote on 5 May 2022, 14:34 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes

      If they were not drunkards before this war, I assure they are now or, at the very least, well on their way to becoming so.

      Elbows up!

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      • R Renauda
        5 May 2022, 14:23

        In the other other hand, you can be rest assured the Kremlin was fully aware select intelligence sharing with Ukraine was an open secret since well before 24 February. The US and Britain were declassifying intelligence on the Russian military build up along Ukraine’s borders since last fall and sharing it with global media. That level of open intelligence sharing, to my knowledge and recollection, was unprecedented. It appears to have thrown the Russians off and possibly even delayed the invasion. This openness with intelligence has become one of the unique characteristics of this war.

        In any case what can the Russians do about it now? Complain about interference? Provoke them to attack US and British targets? Escalate their blundering offensives in Ukraine?

        Nothing new here.

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        George K
        wrote on 5 May 2022, 14:34 last edited by
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        @Renauda said in Top Russian General Killed:

        In the other other hand, you can be rest assured the Kremlin was fully aware select intelligence sharing with Ukraine was an open secret since well before 24 February.

        Of course they were. And it would silly to think it weren't the case.

        This openness with intelligence has become one of the unique characteristics of this war.

        On the part of the intelligence communities, I'd agree. The fact that "The Paper of Record" is reporting it is a wholly different issue, and, as I said, feeds into Putin's propaganda: "Look at what the New York Times just admitted!"

        In any case what can the Russians do about it now? Complain about interference? Provoke them to attack US and British targets? Escalate their blundering offensives in Ukraine?

        Not a thing other than shake their fist at the sky and complain, more loudly, claiming verification by the US media.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          5 May 2022, 14:34

          @Renauda said in Top Russian General Killed:

          In the other other hand, you can be rest assured the Kremlin was fully aware select intelligence sharing with Ukraine was an open secret since well before 24 February.

          Of course they were. And it would silly to think it weren't the case.

          This openness with intelligence has become one of the unique characteristics of this war.

          On the part of the intelligence communities, I'd agree. The fact that "The Paper of Record" is reporting it is a wholly different issue, and, as I said, feeds into Putin's propaganda: "Look at what the New York Times just admitted!"

          In any case what can the Russians do about it now? Complain about interference? Provoke them to attack US and British targets? Escalate their blundering offensives in Ukraine?

          Not a thing other than shake their fist at the sky and complain, more loudly, claiming verification by the US media.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 5 May 2022, 15:23 last edited by Renauda 5 May 2022, 15:32
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          @George-K

          I really don’t see how the article feeds the Kremlin propaganda machine any more than supplying Ukraine with munitions and sanctions on the economy and its citizens. The Russians can say what they wish; they have been saying that the West meddles for the past century. It is ingrained in the public consciousness there. And in the West, no one of any consequence cares.

          It merely confirms that at this stage, there is a unified resolve in NATO to assist Ukrainian defence in any way possible short of direct military intervention.

          Welcome back to Cold War rules of engagement. It will be a fun ride.

          Elbows up!

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            George K
            wrote on 7 May 2022, 13:44 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 7 May 2022, 13:45 last edited by jon-nyc 5 Jul 2022, 13:45
              #94

              It must weigh on these generals minds that they’re being individually tracked by US technology.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                7 May 2022, 13:45

                It must weigh on these generals minds that they’re being individually tracked by US technology.

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                George K
                wrote on 7 May 2022, 13:56 last edited by
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                This guy was called a "Lieutenant Colonel," so I don't really know how that translates into authority, etc.

                The story in his obituary is similar to what @Renauda has said about the structure of the Russian leadership and military.

                m the first days of the special military operation, he commanded units in the Kharkov direction, participated in clashes, maintaining the morale of his subordinates, and walked shoulder to shoulder with ordinary soldiers.

                On May 2, 2022, Lieutenant Colonel Bichikaev, despite his high position, personally led the scouts to carry out a particularly important combat mission.

                The outnumbered sabotage group of the enemy went in the opposite direction, a fierce battle ensued. Bichikaev was seriously wounded, the bullet broke the artery. Possessing an unbending will and high professionalism, he continued to lead the battle.

                Fezul was 36 years old. He was survived by two sons and a little daughter.

                A military memorial service will be held on Sunday, May 8, at the address: North Ossetia-Alania, Vladikavkaz, st. Moscow, 31.

                https://www-e--osetia-ru.translate.goog/news/3384422/pri-ispolnenii-voinskogo-dolga-pogib-zitel-rso-a-bicikaev-fezul-avtandilovic?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 24 May 2022, 15:40 last edited by
                  #96

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/who-is-kanamat-botashev-russia-s-highest-ranking-airforce-commander-killed/ar-AAXF9CR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7d2010d8bf5b4c72bb0767a3d50ab361

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    George K
                    wrote on 24 May 2022, 15:50 last edited by
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                    How the 63-year-old retired general ended up piloting a Su-25 in Ukraine is unknown, although former subordinates told the BBC that he "simply could not stay away."

                    This defies belief. At 63 he is no physical condition to fly a fighter jet in a war zone. Wanna take it for a joyride in the skies around Moscow? Sure. This? No.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 24 May 2022, 16:00 last edited by
                      #98

                      Gives you some idea how threadbare their military is now.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 5 Jun 2022, 20:38 last edited by George K 6 May 2022, 20:39
                        #99

                        Russian general killed in eastern Ukraine,

                        A Russian general was killed in eastern Ukraine, a Russian state media journalist said on Sunday, adding to the string of high-ranking military casualties sustained by Moscow.

                        The report, published on the Telegram messaging app by state television reporter Alexander Sladkov, did not say precisely when and where Major General Roman Kutuzov was killed.

                        There was no immediate comment from the Russian defence ministry.

                        Russian forces have intensified attacks to capture Sievierodonetsk, a key city in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region that Moscow is targeting after failing to take the capital Kyiv early in the war.

                        Russia already classifies military deaths as state secrets even in times of peace and has not updated its official casualty figures in Ukraine since March 25, when it said that 1,351 Russian soldiers had been killed since the start of its military campaign on Feb. 24.

                        Russia says it is carrying out "special military operation" designed to demilitarise Ukraine and rid it of nationalists threatening the Russian-speaking population. Ukraine and Western countries dismiss Russia's claims as a pretext to invade.

                        Britain's defence ministry said on Monday that Russia appeared to have suffered significant losses amongst mid- and junior-ranking officers in Ukraine.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 5 Jun 2022, 21:06 last edited by Renauda 6 May 2022, 21:06
                          #100

                          Family name was Kutuzov?

                          Oh the irony.

                          Elbows up!

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 13 Jun 2022, 00:52 last edited by Renauda
                            #101

                            Not a general but a good whack all the same:

                            https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/putins-notorious-mercenary-the-executioner-killed-by-ukrainian-sniper/news-story/a7aaa6f6a22990cad2a839414fa8ca74?amp

                            Elbows up!

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                              George K
                              wrote on 26 Jun 2022, 16:58 last edited by
                              #102

                              Called up from retirement.

                              Because Vladimir Putin is quickly running out of senior commanders, an overweight former general from the Russian military has been deployed to fight on the frontlines in Eastern Ukraine.

                              After the previous leader of the Russian special forces operating in the region was gravely injured in an artillery strike, the 67-year-old general who weighs 20 stone is now believed to be in charge of the forces operating in the region.

                              General Pavel is the name of the man who fought in Russia’s terrible war in Afghanistan.

                              Sunday night, a top intelligence source told FOX3: “Putin is now scraping the bottom of the barrel.

                              He has had to resort to sending second-rate officers who don’t last very long to the front lines because the majority of his best and most experienced senior commanders have been dead or injured fighting in Ukraine.

                              “He is now dragging generals out of retirement, and one of those he has brought back is General Pavel. “

                              “Putin is comparable to a mafia lord who commands absolute obedience from everyone. There is not much that can be done if a retired general gets a communication from Putin saying that mother Russia needs them to fight in Ukraine. Because of the sanctions, it is now possible to go away from Russia.

                              Pavel served in the military for more than 40 years and eventually became a commander in Russia’s special forces; however, this accomplishment occurred 25 years ago, when he was significantly younger and physically stronger.

                              It is believed that he served in Syria right up until the time that he officially retired from active duty five years ago.

                              He had been living in a suburb of Moscow up until very recently, but it is believed that he was given orders to go back to active duty about a month ago.

                              The officer’s enormous girth necessitates that he wear two sets of body armor in addition to having his uniform tailored specifically for him so that it can accommodate his weight.

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                              It is believed that he must eat five meals a day, each of which must be followed by at least one liter of vodka.

                              It is estimated that Russia has as many as ten generals and as many as thirty senior officers involved in the conflict in Ukraine.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 26 Jun 2022, 17:03 last edited by
                                #103

                                MOAG

                                I was only joking

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  26 Jun 2022, 17:03

                                  MOAG

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 26 Jun 2022, 17:05 last edited by
                                  #104

                                  @Doctor-Phibes one article said that he weighs 280 lb.

                                  I think they got the first digit wrong.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    26 Jun 2022, 17:05

                                    @Doctor-Phibes one article said that he weighs 280 lb.

                                    I think they got the first digit wrong.

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                                    Rich
                                    wrote on 26 Jun 2022, 17:52 last edited by
                                    #105

                                    @George-K I think they got a decimal point wrong.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 26 Jun 2022, 19:54 last edited by Jolly
                                      #106

                                      Well, it ain't like he's packin' a rifle and running around. He'll be fine. But he'll be easy to pick out of a crowd.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 26 Jun 2022, 20:27 last edited by Renauda
                                        #107

                                        I bet they’ll need a block and tackle just get him on his horse. Won’t be the first general needing such assistance.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          26 Jun 2022, 20:27

                                          I bet they’ll need a block and tackle just get him on his horse. Won’t be the first general needing such assistance.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 26 Jun 2022, 20:29 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda said in Top Russian General Killed:

                                          Won’t be the first general needing such assistance.

                                          Yeah, but weren't they wearing armor?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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