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  • George KG Offline
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    Passenger with ‘no idea how to fly’ lands plane after pilot emergency

    Just after noon on Tuesday, a passenger flying in a single-engine plane about 20 miles east of Boca Raton, Fla., radioed air-traffic control.

    “I’ve got a serious situation here. My pilot has gone incoherent,” the man said, adding from about 9,000 feet up that he had “no idea how to fly the airplane.”

    The passenger, who did not identify himself in the exchange archived on LiveATC.net, told the control tower that he was not sure where he was — only that he could “see the coast of Florida in front of me.”

    An air traffic controller and a pilot reacted to a passenger with no flying experience landing a plane on May 10 after the pilot became "incapacitated." (Video: The Washington Post)
    From a tower in Fort Pierce, about 75 miles north of Boca Raton, the air traffic controller asked the passenger to reiterate his situation. The passenger repeated that the pilot was incoherent: “He is out.”

    For about the next five minutes, the air traffic controller instructed the passenger on how to keep the plane stable and begin making a descent.

    “Try to hold the wings level and see if you can start descending for me,” the controller said. “Push forward on the controls and descend at a very slow rate.”

    At points, the passenger remarked on how little he knew about the airplane he was flying.

    “I can’t even get my [navigation] screen to turn on,” he said. “It has all the information on it. You guys got any ideas on that?”

    Throughout much of the exchange, however, his voice remained relatively calm, even as he said things like, “I have no idea how to stop the airplane. I don’t know how to do anything.”

    The tower eventually connected the passenger to air traffic controllers in Palm Beach County. They guided him to the Palm Beach International Airport, where the man successfully landed the plane.

    A Federal Aviation Administration spokesman said in a statement to The Washington Post that the plane identified in the recordings, a Cessna 208 registered to an address in Connecticut, landed in Palm Beach County around 12:30 p.m. Tuesday following a “possible pilot medical issue.” Two people were on board, the spokesman said, adding that the agency “will investigate.” The FAA did not identify the pilot or the passenger.

    The plane had taken off just before 11 a.m. from Marsh Harbour in the Bahamas, according to the flight tracker FlightAware.

    The Cessna 208 is a single-engine propeller plane measuring nearly 38 feet long and 15 feet tall, with a 52-foot wingspan, according to its manufacturer. It can be used to transport passengers and cargo. It can also be outfitted to land on water.

    Just after 12:30 p.m., according to a recording captured by LiveATC.net, which archives air-traffic communications, a controller at the Palm Beach International Airport remarked on the passenger’s landing of the plane.

    “No flying experience,” the controller said. “We got a controller that worked them down that’s a flight instructor.”

    JetBlue pilot Justin Dalmolin told WPBF, which first reported the story, that he had to wait to land his plane as air traffic controllers guided the Cessna’s passenger into the airport. What the passenger did was no easy feat, Dalmolin told the station.

    “The level of difficulty that this person had to deal with in terms of having zero flight time to fly and land a single-engine turbine aircraft is absolutely incredible,” Dalmolin said: “I remember ... when I first started flight training I was white-knuckled and sweating.”

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      https://www.cnn.com/videos/travel/2022/05/11/passenger-lands-plane-pilot-incapacitated-florida-muntean-dnt-vpx.cnn

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Somebody did a nice job talking that guy down.

        But this instruction from the controller needs some work.

        “Try to hold the wings level and see if you can start descending for me,”
        “Push forward on the controls and descend at a very slow rate.”

        How do I know the wings are level?

        If the wings aren't level, how do I fix it?

        What instrument shows the rate?

        Where is it?

        What is a very slow rate?

        How do I control the rate?

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          Very cool and incredible. It reminds me of how hard it is to become an air traffic controller, let alone to be able to provide instructions to a n00b.

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          • kluursK Online
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            Learned everything I know about flying from watching "Sky King" as a child.

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            • kluursK kluurs

              Learned everything I know about flying from watching "Sky King" as a child.

              George KG Offline
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              @kluurs said in Come fly with me: No experience needed:

              Learned everything I know about flying from watching "Sky King" as a child.

              And look where that got you...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                @kluurs said in Come fly with me: No experience needed:

                Learned everything I know about flying from watching "Sky King" as a child.

                And look where that got you...

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                I was pretty confident I could fly a B17 after watching 12 o'clock high.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  6 whole posts and not a single freaking Airplane! reference. I'm seriously let down here.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    6 whole posts and not a single freaking Airplane! reference. I'm seriously let down here.

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Come fly with me: No experience needed:

                    6 whole posts and not a single freaking Airplane! reference. I'm seriously let down here.

                    Because that's just what you were expecting us to do!

                    I was only joking

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