Puff piece on Karine
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@Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:
Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.
Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?
Seems to fit both equally. LOL
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@taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:
@Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:
Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.
Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?
Seems to fit both equally. LOL
Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.
Education is extremely important.
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@Horace said in Puff piece on Karine:
@taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:
@Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:
Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.
Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?
Seems to fit both equally. LOL
Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.
“What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL
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@taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:
@Horace said in Puff piece on Karine:
@taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:
@Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:
Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.
Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?
Seems to fit both equally. LOL
Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.
“What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL
That checks out, in a universe where all sides of every issue are always equal.
Education is extremely important.
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@taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:
@Horace I agree. However, people (including me) have difficult in thinking that the other side has an equal view.
"MY side is always the correct side. etc."
You take sides?
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@taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:
“What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL
I think that is rather wrong. What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc. Were it true we would have little interest in other people.
I suspect that when we are irritated or even disgusted by others, we might react adversely because we realize our own frailties and susceptibilities, and it is easier to externalize our own "badness" on to others rather than do the hard work of fixing ourselves.
Does that make sense?
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@Ivorythumper said in Puff piece on Karine:
What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc.
What do you mean, 'we'?
I was only joking
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Puff piece on Karine:
@Ivorythumper said in Puff piece on Karine:
What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc.
What do you mean, 'we'?
By "we" I mean "everyone but 'me'", of course.
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@Ivorythumper said in Puff piece on Karine:
@taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:
“What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL
I think that is rather wrong. What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc.
I think that's often true—it explains pretty much every internet troll out there. But it's also not a universal explanation. Sometimes, you have expectations of others—e.g., respect other people's feelings—that you perceive as not being sufficiently met. Has nothing to do with wishing you were as charismatic or confident as the blowhard in the room, and everything to do with you concluding that he's an asshole.
I suspect that when we are irritated or even disgusted by others, we might react adversely because we realize our own frailties and susceptibilities, and it is easier to externalize our own "badness" on to others rather than do the hard work of fixing ourselves.
Again, only sometimes. Placing a negative judgment on, say, a total douche in public is an immediate reaction and not always incorrect. Failing to live up to our own expectations has nothing to do with others' social inadequacies and how much harm they can cause everyone around them. Sure, with some introspection, we might decide to be more constructive and take the Stoic route to self-improvement instead, but not liking some assclown doesn't always have to do with projection.
