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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Oh, my aching back.

    Somebody needs to educate this mouthy dumbhead that press secretaries don't get to have opinions.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      Is she easily offended?

      If she isn't I'd advise her to learn to fake it.

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      • MikM Mik

        Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #9

        @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

        Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

        Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

        Seems to fit both equally. LOL

        HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

          Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

          Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

          Seems to fit both equally. LOL

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

          @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

          Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

          Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

          Seems to fit both equally. LOL

          Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.

          Education is extremely important.

          taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
          • HoraceH Horace

            @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

            @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

            Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

            Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

            Seems to fit both equally. LOL

            Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.

            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            @Horace said in Puff piece on Karine:

            @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

            @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

            Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

            Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

            Seems to fit both equally. LOL

            Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.

            “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

            HoraceH IvorythumperI 2 Replies Last reply
            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Horace said in Puff piece on Karine:

              @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

              @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

              Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

              Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

              Seems to fit both equally. LOL

              Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.

              “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #12

              @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

              @Horace said in Puff piece on Karine:

              @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

              @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

              Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

              Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

              Seems to fit both equally. LOL

              Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.

              “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

              That checks out, in a universe where all sides of every issue are always equal.

              Education is extremely important.

              taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
              • HoraceH Horace

                @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                @Horace said in Puff piece on Karine:

                @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

                Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

                Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

                Seems to fit both equally. LOL

                Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.

                “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

                That checks out, in a universe where all sides of every issue are always equal.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
                taiwan_girlT Offline
                taiwan_girl
                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                @Horace I agree. However, people (including me) have difficult in thinking that the other side has an equal view.

                "MY side is always the correct side. etc."

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Horace I agree. However, people (including me) have difficult in thinking that the other side has an equal view.

                  "MY side is always the correct side. etc."

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                  @Horace I agree. However, people (including me) have difficult in thinking that the other side has an equal view.

                  "MY side is always the correct side. etc."

                  You take sides?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Horace said in Puff piece on Karine:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                    @Mik said in Puff piece on Karine:

                    Plays right into the midterms. It shores up his base, which accomplishes little to nothing, and doubles down on identity politics, offending the undecided center where victory lies.

                    Are you talking about President Trump or President Biden?

                    Seems to fit both equally. LOL

                    Trump doubled down on identity politics? I have actually heard that argument made, but only by overtly tribal leftists.

                    “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

                    IvorythumperI Offline
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                    Ivorythumper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                    “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

                    I think that is rather wrong. What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc. Were it true we would have little interest in other people.

                    I suspect that when we are irritated or even disgusted by others, we might react adversely because we realize our own frailties and susceptibilities, and it is easier to externalize our own "badness" on to others rather than do the hard work of fixing ourselves.

                    Does that make sense?

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                    • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                      @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                      “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

                      I think that is rather wrong. What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc. Were it true we would have little interest in other people.

                      I suspect that when we are irritated or even disgusted by others, we might react adversely because we realize our own frailties and susceptibilities, and it is easier to externalize our own "badness" on to others rather than do the hard work of fixing ourselves.

                      Does that make sense?

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #16

                      @Ivorythumper said in Puff piece on Karine:

                      What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc.

                      What do you mean, 'we'?

                      👁 👁

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Ivorythumper said in Puff piece on Karine:

                        What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc.

                        What do you mean, 'we'?

                        👁 👁

                        IvorythumperI Offline
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                        Ivorythumper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #17

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Puff piece on Karine:

                        @Ivorythumper said in Puff piece on Karine:

                        What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc.

                        What do you mean, 'we'?

                        👁 👁

                        By "we" I mean "everyone but 'me'", of course.

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                        • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                          @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                          “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

                          I think that is rather wrong. What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc. Were it true we would have little interest in other people.

                          I suspect that when we are irritated or even disgusted by others, we might react adversely because we realize our own frailties and susceptibilities, and it is easier to externalize our own "badness" on to others rather than do the hard work of fixing ourselves.

                          Does that make sense?

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          @Ivorythumper said in Puff piece on Karine:

                          @taiwan_girl said in Puff piece on Karine:

                          “What we see in others is always a mirror of what we see in ourselves" LOL

                          I think that is rather wrong. What we see in others is frequently that which we do not see in ourselves, but wish that we had: charm, intelligence, success, confidence, talent, etc.

                          I think that's often true—it explains pretty much every internet troll out there. But it's also not a universal explanation. Sometimes, you have expectations of others—e.g., respect other people's feelings—that you perceive as not being sufficiently met. Has nothing to do with wishing you were as charismatic or confident as the blowhard in the room, and everything to do with you concluding that he's an asshole.

                          I suspect that when we are irritated or even disgusted by others, we might react adversely because we realize our own frailties and susceptibilities, and it is easier to externalize our own "badness" on to others rather than do the hard work of fixing ourselves.

                          Again, only sometimes. Placing a negative judgment on, say, a total douche in public is an immediate reaction and not always incorrect. Failing to live up to our own expectations has nothing to do with others' social inadequacies and how much harm they can cause everyone around them. Sure, with some introspection, we might decide to be more constructive and take the Stoic route to self-improvement instead, but not liking some assclown doesn't always have to do with projection.

                          Please love yourself.

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