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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I also want to buy a new bike. I got a hybrid road/trail bike but I use it exclusively on pavement so I want to upgrade to a road bike.

    I want something decent and not too precious. It’s not even about the money I just refuse to be one of those people.

    A work-a-day road bike is all I need.

    Any recommendations?

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @jon-nyc said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

    I also want to buy a new bike. I got a hybrid road/trail bike but I use it exclusively on pavement so I want to upgrade to a road bike.

    I want something decent and not too precious. It’s not even about the money I just refuse to be one of those people.

    A work-a-day road bike is all I need.

    Any recommendations?

    Get one with slightly wide tires/wheels. Won't slow you down but will allow you to ride comfortably in all kinds of pavement.

    If gears still perplex you, consider trying a 1x ("one-by".) Much easier to learn.

    Please love yourself.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #4

      Seriously though, look at what I said to 89th, but on top of that, I would guess that the biggest thing for you, would be to get something comfortable. You're old and have been through some shit. Make sure you can stay on the bike for as long as you intend on riding. Try more upright ones.

      I'm not being a dick, I'm serious. I had to modify mine this year because I'm pushing 40 and my back is jacked up a little.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        He's going to be one of those people.

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        #5

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

        He's going to be one of those people.

        😀 😀 😀

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          Seriously though, look at what I said to 89th, but on top of that, I would guess that the biggest thing for you, would be to get something comfortable. You're old and have been through some shit. Make sure you can stay on the bike for as long as you intend on riding. Try more upright ones.

          I'm not being a dick, I'm serious. I had to modify mine this year because I'm pushing 40 and my back is jacked up a little.

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          Klaus
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          #6

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          Seriously though, look at what I said to 89th, but on top of that, I would guess that the biggest thing for you, would be to get something comfortable.

          That's a good point, especially if you are - like me - not very mobile.

          Many bike vendors have 3 or 4 lines of road bike geometries.

          At the top of the line, there's the "aero" bikes - they'll ride the fastest but are the most uncomfortable.
          Then, there's often something like a "race" bike. Less fast, more comfortable.
          Then, there's often something like an "endurance" bike. Less fast still, more comfortable still.
          Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires, but you can just put ordinary road tires on them (but even there I'd use 28 or 30mm wide ones for comfort).

          I bought a "race" category bike once, but I had to swap it for an "endurance" type bike because I lack the mobility for it. I wouldn't last 30min on an "aero" bike.

          Canyon has all these lines, for instance. Check out their "Endurace" line or their "Grail" line. Depending on the frame material and components, the prices will range between $1500 and $10000. Unlike some other products, you don't really get better quality by paying more. If you pay more, you pay it mainly for saving a small amount of weight (and some gimmicks like electronic shifting) or, in some cases, for a brand name (such as "Colnago").

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            Build your own. 😉

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
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              I went to a local bike shop and tried three bikes out by the same manufacturer- Trek in this case, since they had a few, and then just bought the one I liked best. I’d kind of settled on a budget before I went in, and had figured I wanted a 105 group set (breaks and gears) as it probably gave best performance for money without getting stupid.

              Then I rode it four a couple of weeks to get used to it then I had a bike fitting to tweak it a bit. I’ve been pretty happy with the result. I use more hard-wearing tires so it doesn’t go as fast as it might, but also doesn’t get punctures. I learned that lesson the first year.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                I went to a local bike shop and tried three bikes out by the same manufacturer- Trek in this case, since they had a few, and then just bought the one I liked best. I’d kind of settled on a budget before I went in, and had figured I wanted a 105 group set (breaks and gears) as it probably gave best performance for money without getting stupid.

                Then I rode it four a couple of weeks to get used to it then I had a bike fitting to tweak it a bit. I’ve been pretty happy with the result. I use more hard-wearing tires so it doesn’t go as fast as it might, but also doesn’t get punctures. I learned that lesson the first year.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                #9

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                I went to a local bike shop and tried three bikes out by the same manufacturer- Trek in this case, since they had a few, and then just bought the one I liked best. I’d kind of settled on a budget before I went in, and had figured I wanted a 105 group set (breaks and gears) as it probably gave best performance for money without getting stupid.

                Then I rode it four a couple of weeks to get used to it then I had a bike fitting to tweak it a bit. I’ve been pretty happy with the result. I use more hard-wearing tires so it doesn’t go as fast as it might, but also doesn’t get punctures. I learned that lesson the first year.

                Which model?

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                  I went to a local bike shop and tried three bikes out by the same manufacturer- Trek in this case, since they had a few, and then just bought the one I liked best. I’d kind of settled on a budget before I went in, and had figured I wanted a 105 group set (breaks and gears) as it probably gave best performance for money without getting stupid.

                  Then I rode it four a couple of weeks to get used to it then I had a bike fitting to tweak it a bit. I’ve been pretty happy with the result. I use more hard-wearing tires so it doesn’t go as fast as it might, but also doesn’t get punctures. I learned that lesson the first year.

                  Which model?

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #10

                  @Aqua-Letifer I ended up with an Emonda ALR-5. This was a few years back now

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Aqua-Letifer I ended up with an Emonda ALR-5. This was a few years back now

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                    @Aqua-Letifer I ended up with an Emonda ALR-5. This was a few years back now

                    Emondas are great IMO.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                      @Aqua-Letifer I ended up with an Emonda ALR-5. This was a few years back now

                      Emondas are great IMO.

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                      #12

                      @Aqua-Letifer no complaints from me. They have disk brakes now, mine has the old traditional type

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Aqua-Letifer no complaints from me. They have disk brakes now, mine has the old traditional type

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                        @Aqua-Letifer no complaints from me. They have disk brakes now, mine has the old traditional type

                        Oh where you do a 1/2-reverse pedal to brake? Can't beat old school.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          Seriously though, look at what I said to 89th, but on top of that, I would guess that the biggest thing for you, would be to get something comfortable.

                          That's a good point, especially if you are - like me - not very mobile.

                          Many bike vendors have 3 or 4 lines of road bike geometries.

                          At the top of the line, there's the "aero" bikes - they'll ride the fastest but are the most uncomfortable.
                          Then, there's often something like a "race" bike. Less fast, more comfortable.
                          Then, there's often something like an "endurance" bike. Less fast still, more comfortable still.
                          Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires, but you can just put ordinary road tires on them (but even there I'd use 28 or 30mm wide ones for comfort).

                          I bought a "race" category bike once, but I had to swap it for an "endurance" type bike because I lack the mobility for it. I wouldn't last 30min on an "aero" bike.

                          Canyon has all these lines, for instance. Check out their "Endurace" line or their "Grail" line. Depending on the frame material and components, the prices will range between $1500 and $10000. Unlike some other products, you don't really get better quality by paying more. If you pay more, you pay it mainly for saving a small amount of weight (and some gimmicks like electronic shifting) or, in some cases, for a brand name (such as "Colnago").

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                          @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

                          That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

                          Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

                          The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                            Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

                            That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

                            Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

                            The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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                            @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                            The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people.

                            Busted 😳

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

                              That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

                              Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

                              The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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                              @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes.

                              Those are roadie shoes. Mine are SPDs. They look exactly like tennis shoes, and they have a recessed cleat, so I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes.

                                Those are roadie shoes. Mine are SPDs. They look exactly like tennis shoes, and they have a recessed cleat, so I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

                                At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

                                  At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

                                  At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

                                  Exactly. I can do that on my own, I don't need duck shoes and lycra to help me out.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

                                    At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

                                    Exactly. I can do that on my own, I don't need duck shoes and lycra to help me out.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                                    Hopefully it gets better

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                                      Hopefully it gets better

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                      I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                                      Hopefully it gets better

                                      The older you get, the less likely that lycra and duck shoes will mitigate the humiliation. Probably the opposite.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

                                        That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

                                        Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

                                        The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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                                        @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

                                        I would have appreciated a trigger warning. Thank you. I will take a few moments now to collect myself, and attempt to continue on with my day.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                                          Hopefully it gets better

                                          The older you get, the less likely that lycra and duck shoes will mitigate the humiliation. Probably the opposite.

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                                          @George-K said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                                          Hopefully it gets better

                                          The older you get, the less likely that lycra and duck shoes will mitigate the humiliation. Probably the opposite.

                                          Lycra and duck shoes always enhance the humiliation.

                                          Please love yourself.

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