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    Jolly
    wrote on 26 Apr 2022, 13:20 last edited by
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    What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

    No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

    What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      26 Apr 2022, 13:20

      What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

      No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

      What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 26 Apr 2022, 13:42 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in A Different America:

      What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

      No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

      What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

      They would've gone under or become completely irrelevant. Meanwhile, instead of social media and the msm, we'd just have social media as a "news" source.

      Please love yourself.

      J 1 Reply Last reply 26 Apr 2022, 16:28
      • A Aqua Letifer
        26 Apr 2022, 13:42

        @Jolly said in A Different America:

        What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

        No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

        What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

        They would've gone under or become completely irrelevant. Meanwhile, instead of social media and the msm, we'd just have social media as a "news" source.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 26 Apr 2022, 16:28 last edited by
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        @Aqua-Letifer said in A Different America:

        @Jolly said in A Different America:

        What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

        No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

        What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

        They would've gone under or become completely irrelevant. Meanwhile, instead of social media and the msm, we'd just have social media as a "news" source.

        I disagree. There will always be a place for sensationalism or yellow journalism, but if the MSM was playing it straight, I think the country would be in a different place. I think there would be more trust in institutions. I think there would be less graft and back-scratching. And I think you might hear more voices at the table.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          26 Apr 2022, 16:28

          @Aqua-Letifer said in A Different America:

          @Jolly said in A Different America:

          What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

          No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

          What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

          They would've gone under or become completely irrelevant. Meanwhile, instead of social media and the msm, we'd just have social media as a "news" source.

          I disagree. There will always be a place for sensationalism or yellow journalism, but if the MSM was playing it straight, I think the country would be in a different place. I think there would be more trust in institutions. I think there would be less graft and back-scratching. And I think you might hear more voices at the table.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 26 Apr 2022, 19:01 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in A Different America:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in A Different America:

          @Jolly said in A Different America:

          What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

          No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

          What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

          They would've gone under or become completely irrelevant. Meanwhile, instead of social media and the msm, we'd just have social media as a "news" source.

          I disagree. There will always be a place for sensationalism or yellow journalism, but if the MSM was playing it straight, I think the country would be in a different place. I think there would be more trust in institutions. I think there would be less graft and back-scratching. And I think you might hear more voices at the table.

          Jolly, no one would read it. Maybe today, we might be ready for an alternative to outrage porn, but I don't think so. And absolutely not from the 90s to today.

          This reminds me of a South African guy I know who hated how pedestrian and uninspired wedding photography was. All his graduated friends and teachers in photo school tried to tell him, look, it's what the clients want out there. They want lineups of attendees and silly versions to post on Insta, they don't want fine art. But he thought he could be different! He'll be clever, and make the kind of images clients want, but in an elevated way that's so striking they can't help but to love the work!

          He did indeed take far better wedding photos. And he also went under as a wedding photographer because he didn't understand.

          The very reason the MSM shifted from Edward Murrow to Trump Hatred Network is because that's the only way they can compete against the clickbait. It was an inevitable descent that social media only sped up. Disagree all you want, but I worked as a journalist. All else being equal, no one has yet figured out how to monetize objective, in-depth news in a world where everyone has access to the fentanyl of media sensationalism.

          Please love yourself.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 01:48 last edited by
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            I have to agree with @Aqua-Letifer on this. People dont necessary want to be informed. They want to be entertained.

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            • J Jolly
              26 Apr 2022, 13:20

              What would America look like today, if fifty years ago the MSM had made a commitment to adhere to the best practices of journalism?

              No favorites. No agendas other than the Truth. Adequate resources for investigative reporting. Retractions of errors on the front page or at the beginning of a news cast.

              What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

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              89th
              wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 01:56 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in A Different America:

              What would be the effect over this past half-century and what would the country look like today?

              Hard to know. Probably overall the country would be the same, although perhaps there would be more maturity, intellect, and moderation found in our elected officials. Also, the country would feel less divided (although I'll continue to argue it's not as divided as the media likes you to think).

              I do agree that, given the internet/cable proliferation and instant info available to the public, most for-profit corporate news outlets would likely not be very successful.

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