Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

@Jolly said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

Sorry, none of my folks had money.

That maternal grandfather lost his parents in a trolley accident at age 9. His sister raised him, and his brothers agreed to pay tuition. He worked for room and board.

Can’t imagine MIT was all that pricey in the 20s.

Dad did it with the GI bill.

One set of my grandparents didn't have electricity until the mid-50's. I don't think they ever saw a trolley.

[Renauda]

No one on my father’s side to my knowledge had much in the way of formal education - maybe grade three equivalent at most - although they were all tradesmen as adults - my paternal grandfather was a tool and die maker and machinist/mechanic. I think his father was a millwright.

Not sure about my mother’s side although I seem to recall my grandmother saying that my grandfather, like his father before him, had attended a military academy and studied engineering there before coming to Canada around 1905. The story of that side of the family is now lost.

[Copper]

For those of you who may be wondering

This is a page from the 1950 US Census

Note, at the bottom, they have a "sample" of the people who are asked extra questions. The inclusion in the sample is determined by the position of the countee on the top half of the page.

One of the extra questions is, What is the highest grade of school that he has attended? Yes, I know, it says he, not she.

You might find your answers in the Census.

[brenda]

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[brenda]

Sorry for the extended story unrelated to the thread topic. Jon got me thinking of past generations, and ... well ... there you go.

[George K]

@brenda if this forum had a "like" button, I'd have hit it.

[brenda]

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[brenda]

Yes. Jon, I'm off the track again.

[taiwan_girl]

Interesting stuff.

As for me, first one to go to college. My dad had a (maybe) jr. high education. My mom did not go past third grade. Grandparents - I dont think that any of them had any more than a couple of years of school, if that. Different times, different country.

Interesting graphic on US graduation rates.

[Jolly]

I'm glad the data shows we are much more educated.

Intelligent? Not so much.

[jon-nyc]

@Jolly said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

I'm glad the data shows we are much more educated.

Intelligent? Not so much.

I don’t know. Look up the ‘Flynn Effect’.

[Jolly]

Not buying it.

If somebody plopped you or most of the other people of your generation on a Victorian farm and told you to run it, could you? Without starving?

[89th]

@Jolly said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

Not buying it.

If somebody plopped you or most of the other people of your generation on a Victorian farm and told you to run it, could you? Without starving?

It depends, do we have access to YouTube and a feed/farm/hardware store?

[jon-nyc]

@Jolly said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

Not buying it.

If somebody plopped you or most of the other people of your generation on a Victorian farm and told you to run it, could you? Without starving?

Having a set of skills that one learned from childhood isn’t the same thing as intelligence. The Flynn effect is highly replicable.

[Jolly]

What are skills and the ability to apply them, if not intelligence?

[Jolly]

@89th said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

@Jolly said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

Not buying it.

If somebody plopped you or most of the other people of your generation on a Victorian farm and told you to run it, could you? Without starving?

It depends, do we have access to YouTube and a feed/farm/hardware store?

No YouTube and you better make a crop or the village general store will not pack you very far on credit.

[jon-nyc]

Intelligence helps you acquire skills.

It’s not like if you teach someone to farm they get an IQ boost out of it.

And obviously there are plenty of things any modern person can do that would baffle the Victorians.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

Intelligence helps you acquire skills.

It’s not like if you teach someone to farm they get an IQ boost out of it.

And obviously there are plenty of things any modern person can do that would baffle the Victorians.

For Jolly, intelligence is synonymous with "shares my values."

[Horace]

I have a high IQ but I’m not good at much other than being good looking. And banging hot chicks pretty much constantly. And making tons of money. And totally pwning libtards.

[Jolly]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

@jon-nyc said in Who here had grandparents who got a college degree?:

Intelligence helps you acquire skills.

It’s not like if you teach someone to farm they get an IQ boost out of it.

And obviously there are plenty of things any modern person can do that would baffle the Victorians.

For Jolly, intelligence is synonymous with "shares my values."

Wrong.

If the Flynn Effect is real, why can I read a 2500 year-old document and still see men committing the same abusive and heinous acts today? The level of education and knowledge is immeasurably higher today, but men still engage in the same self-destructive behavior. If today's man were vastly more intelligent than his ancestors of more than two millennia ago, should not his destructive and abusive behavior have stopped?