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No traffic lights.

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    #11

    Roundabouts and/or traffic lights are needed only when you are restricted to a spatial plane (two dimensions).

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      I like roundabouts just fine, but they aren't right for every intersection, and this monstrosity would be a complete clusterfvck in an accident or for road maintenance.

      89th8 Offline
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      #12

      @LuFins-Dad said in No traffic lights.:

      I like roundabouts just fine, but they aren't right for every intersection, and this monstrosity would be a complete clusterfvck in an accident or for road maintenance.

      And as we all know, especially in Northern Virginia, it will take a crapload of time, money, and additional ground to install something of this size.

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      • 89th8 89th

        @LuFins-Dad said in No traffic lights.:

        I like roundabouts just fine, but they aren't right for every intersection, and this monstrosity would be a complete clusterfvck in an accident or for road maintenance.

        And as we all know, especially in Northern Virginia, it will take a crapload of time, money, and additional ground to install something of this size.

        CopperC Offline
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        @89th said in No traffic lights.:

        in Northern Virginia,

        Roundabouts would work well in many NOVA intersections.

        The lights used now, on route 7 for example, are terrible. I used to notice it flying in and out of Leesburg. I could see down route 7 for 10 or more miles. You could see that less than half, maybe 25%, of the road surface was in use because the red lights create groups of tightly packed cars. Once the group is created, it takes forever to spread the cars back out.

        And all it takes is one MORON!!! to keep the traffic tightly packed at a slow speed.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #14

          We are getting more roundabouts here, and they work fine. But in towns like Carmel, Indiana they are every semi-major intersection, about every 1/10 or 1/4 mile. It makes driving very tiresome.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • CopperC Copper

            @89th said in No traffic lights.:

            in Northern Virginia,

            Roundabouts would work well in many NOVA intersections.

            The lights used now, on route 7 for example, are terrible. I used to notice it flying in and out of Leesburg. I could see down route 7 for 10 or more miles. You could see that less than half, maybe 25%, of the road surface was in use because the red lights create groups of tightly packed cars. Once the group is created, it takes forever to spread the cars back out.

            And all it takes is one MORON!!! to keep the traffic tightly packed at a slow speed.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            @Copper said in No traffic lights.:

            @89th said in No traffic lights.:

            in Northern Virginia,

            Roundabouts would work well in many NOVA intersections.

            The lights used now, on route 7 for example, are terrible. I used to notice it flying in and out of Leesburg. I could see down route 7 for 10 or more miles. You could see that less than half, maybe 25%, of the road surface was in use because the red lights create groups of tightly packed cars. Once the group is created, it takes forever to spread the cars back out.

            And all it takes is one MORON!!! to keep the traffic tightly packed at a slow speed.

            I’ll point to the success they had on Rt 28 from 66 to 7 with getting rid of the traffic lights and using entrance and exit ramps… That was a great improvement. Can’t really do that with 7, too many crossroads and not enough space… but roundabouts would work. Fairfax County Parkway has been improved with some ramps over the last 20 years, but there are a couple lights where a roundabout would work better. Wiehle, Franklin Farm, West Ox, and Sunrise Valley come to mind.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Copper said in No traffic lights.:

              @89th said in No traffic lights.:

              in Northern Virginia,

              Roundabouts would work well in many NOVA intersections.

              The lights used now, on route 7 for example, are terrible. I used to notice it flying in and out of Leesburg. I could see down route 7 for 10 or more miles. You could see that less than half, maybe 25%, of the road surface was in use because the red lights create groups of tightly packed cars. Once the group is created, it takes forever to spread the cars back out.

              And all it takes is one MORON!!! to keep the traffic tightly packed at a slow speed.

              I’ll point to the success they had on Rt 28 from 66 to 7 with getting rid of the traffic lights and using entrance and exit ramps… That was a great improvement. Can’t really do that with 7, too many crossroads and not enough space… but roundabouts would work. Fairfax County Parkway has been improved with some ramps over the last 20 years, but there are a couple lights where a roundabout would work better. Wiehle, Franklin Farm, West Ox, and Sunrise Valley come to mind.

              KlausK Offline
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              All those u turns look like a waste of space.

              Very space inefficient design in general.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                That's kinda like a Savannah Square.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  #18

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                  • 89th8 89th

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                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #19

                    @89th said in No traffic lights.:

                    4a6df37b-5b31-4f1e-83b8-8370010fea62-image.png

                    Is that something real?? 😲

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @89th said in No traffic lights.:

                      4a6df37b-5b31-4f1e-83b8-8370010fea62-image.png

                      Is that something real?? 😲

                      89th8 Offline
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                      @taiwan_girl said in No traffic lights.:

                      @89th said in No traffic lights.:

                      4a6df37b-5b31-4f1e-83b8-8370010fea62-image.png

                      Is that something real?? 😲

                      Yup, it’s in England somewhere. Traffic circles within traffic circles. They say it’s even worse when it rains and it’s hard to read the road signs. Good thing it doesn’t rain there often.

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #21

                        If you ever want real fun, try the big ones like that in Tijuana. They have concrete cylinders sticking up for a cop to stand on and semi-direct, not that anyone pays attention. Got to be one of the world's worst jobs.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          If you ever want real fun, try the big ones like that in Tijuana. They have concrete cylinders sticking up for a cop to stand on and semi-direct, not that anyone pays attention. Got to be one of the world's worst jobs.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #22

                          @Mik said in No traffic lights.:

                          If you ever want real fun, try the big ones like that in Tijuana. They have concrete cylinders sticking up for a cop to stand on and semi-direct, not that anyone pays attention. Got to be one of the world's worst jobs.

                          I dunno. You get to be outside.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #23

                            Breathing all that fresh exhaust.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @89th said in No traffic lights.:

                              4a6df37b-5b31-4f1e-83b8-8370010fea62-image.png

                              Is that something real?? 😲

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              @taiwan_girl said in No traffic lights.:

                              @89th said in No traffic lights.:

                              4a6df37b-5b31-4f1e-83b8-8370010fea62-image.png

                              Is that something real?? 😲

                              It’s in Swindon in the south of England. It’s one of the nicest parts of the town, if memory serves

                              I was only joking

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