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$100/1000 miles

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    But how long will we see $5 gas?

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    @Jolly said in $100/1000 miles:

    But how long will we see $5 gas?

    If it stays under $10 I'll be very impressed.

    Please love yourself.

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      Axtremus
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      $100 for 1000 miles is quite good when gas is over $4 a gallon.

      Assuming a fairly typical gasoline powered compact sedan that can average, say, 35 miles per gallon, you will need over 28 gallons of gasoline to go 1000 miles, and at $4 per gallon, you’re looking at somewhere close to $115 worth of gasoline.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @Jolly said in $100/1000 miles:

        But how long will we see $5 gas?

        If it stays under $10 I'll be very impressed.

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in $100/1000 miles:

        @Jolly said in $100/1000 miles:

        But how long will we see $5 gas?

        If it stays under $10 I'll be very impressed.

        Impressed you will be.

        I don't think Vlad The Invader has any intention of staying in Ukraine. Too much blood and treasure, it would make Afghanistan look like a walk in the park.

        No, I think we ramp up, even though Biden will be dragged along kicking and screaming, as the Green New Deal gets the crap kicked out of it. I think Canada ramps up. I think we turn a blind eye and Venezuela and Iran make a bunch of money. Then, I think Putin gets his butt out of Ukraine and the West lets him turn the taps back on...And, Lord, he's gonna need the money, due to pressure from the Russian people, who will be tired of the sanctions by then.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          $100 for 1000 miles is quite good when gas is over $4 a gallon.

          Assuming a fairly typical gasoline powered compact sedan that can average, say, 35 miles per gallon, you will need over 28 gallons of gasoline to go 1000 miles, and at $4 per gallon, you’re looking at somewhere close to $115 worth of gasoline.

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          @Axtremus said in $100/1000 miles:

          $100 for 1000 miles is quite good when gas is over $4 a gallon.

          Assuming a fairly typical gasoline powered compact sedan that can average, say, 35 miles per gallon, you will need over 28 gallons of gasoline to go 1000 miles, and at $4 per gallon, you’re looking at somewhere close to $115 worth of gasoline.

          Look at long term upkeep, however.

          The greenest vehicle is not the cheapest to operate in the short term, but the one that can last the longest and operate the cheapest over the long haul...Let's go back to that Corolla...If we can get over 200,000 miles in a 20 year period with no major repairs, is it not the cheapest to own and the greenest option?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            It's what? 50 miles per hour charged? So 20 hours. What's 20 hours worth to you?

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              It's what? 50 miles per hour charged? So 20 hours. What's 20 hours worth to you?

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              jon-nyc
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              @LuFins-Dad said in $100/1000 miles:

              It's what? 50 miles per hour charged? So 20 hours. What's 20 hours worth to you?

              It makes sense iff you can charge overnights.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Jolly
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                I think EV's make sense as city cars, at the right price. Commute and top off the batteries at night. Just don't expect them to last for long periods without serious battery costs.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  I think EV's make sense as city cars, at the right price. Commute and top off the batteries at night. Just don't expect them to last for long periods without serious battery costs.

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                  @Jolly said in $100/1000 miles:

                  I think EV's make sense as city cars, at the right price. Commute and top off the batteries at night.

                  If you have the ability to do that. Apartment dwellers who park in outside lots or on the street don't have that option.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
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                    #16

                    Nuther question...EV's use roads. What about taxes to keep the roads up?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Axtremus said in $100/1000 miles:

                      $100 for 1000 miles is quite good when gas is over $4 a gallon.

                      Assuming a fairly typical gasoline powered compact sedan that can average, say, 35 miles per gallon, you will need over 28 gallons of gasoline to go 1000 miles, and at $4 per gallon, you’re looking at somewhere close to $115 worth of gasoline.

                      Look at long term upkeep, however.

                      The greenest vehicle is not the cheapest to operate in the short term, but the one that can last the longest and operate the cheapest over the long haul...Let's go back to that Corolla...If we can get over 200,000 miles in a 20 year period with no major repairs, is it not the cheapest to own and the greenest option?

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                      Axtremus
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                      #17

                      @Jolly said in $100/1000 miles:

                      @Axtremus said in $100/1000 miles:

                      $100 for 1000 miles is quite good when gas is over $4 a gallon.

                      Assuming a fairly typical gasoline powered compact sedan that can average, say, 35 miles per gallon, you will need over 28 gallons of gasoline to go 1000 miles, and at $4 per gallon, you’re looking at somewhere close to $115 worth of gasoline.

                      Look at long term upkeep, however.

                      The greenest vehicle is not the cheapest to operate in the short term, but the one that can last the longest and operate the cheapest over the long haul...Let's go back to that Corolla...If we can get over 200,000 miles in a 20 year period with no major repairs, is it not the cheapest to own and the greenest option?

                      Indeed, I have seen studies that show that the most eco-friendly option when it comes to buying a car is to buy a used car. The total carbon footprint, once you factor in the manufacturing of the car itself, favors used cars.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Nuther question...EV's use roads. What about taxes to keep the roads up?

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                        @Jolly said in $100/1000 miles:

                        Nuther question...EV's use roads. What about taxes to keep the roads up?

                        Tax the rich

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Nuther question...EV's use roads. What about taxes to keep the roads up?

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                          Axtremus
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                          @Jolly said in $100/1000 miles:

                          Nuther question...EV's use roads. What about taxes to keep the roads up?

                          We discussed that before, you started the thread:
                          https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/8222/by-the-mile?page=1

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                            A year ago?

                            Son, I've slept since then...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Reading an interesting paper about a charging company whose focus is getting charging stations into conventional gas stations.

                              There are about 115,000 gas stations in the US and they estimate they really only need to get into ~ 25-33% of the stations, and many gas stations are "clustered" near each other.

                              Replacing a set of gas pumps with charging stations or building them off to teh side in the 25-33% will "solve" the issue of not being able to find a charge on a long distance trip.

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                Reading an interesting paper about a charging company whose focus is getting charging stations into conventional gas stations.

                                There are about 115,000 gas stations in the US and they estimate they really only need to get into ~ 25-33% of the stations, and many gas stations are "clustered" near each other.

                                Replacing a set of gas pumps with charging stations or building them off to teh side in the 25-33% will "solve" the issue of not being able to find a charge on a long distance trip.

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                                George K
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                                @taiwan_girl said in $100/1000 miles:

                                Replacing a set of gas pumps with charging stations or building them off to teh side in the 25-33% will "solve" the issue of not being able to find a charge on a long distance trip.

                                Assuming the consumer wants to spend 20-30 minutes to “fill ‘er up.”

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @taiwan_girl said in $100/1000 miles:

                                  Replacing a set of gas pumps with charging stations or building them off to teh side in the 25-33% will "solve" the issue of not being able to find a charge on a long distance trip.

                                  Assuming the consumer wants to spend 20-30 minutes to “fill ‘er up.”

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                                  @George-K said in $100/1000 miles:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in $100/1000 miles:

                                  Replacing a set of gas pumps with charging stations or building them off to teh side in the 25-33% will "solve" the issue of not being able to find a charge on a long distance trip.

                                  Assuming the consumer wants to spend 20-30 minutes to “fill ‘er up.”

                                  Right now, I agree. But I also think that battery technology/charging technology will increase immensly.

                                  My prediction is that in between 5-10 years time, a person will be able to recharge a car battery from 0-80% in 10 minutes or less, and that charge will give you a mile distance equivalent to a tank of gas (600 km or so)

                                  (We will have to "revisit" this forum thread in 5 years to see how close I am. 555)

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    @George-K said in $100/1000 miles:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in $100/1000 miles:

                                    Replacing a set of gas pumps with charging stations or building them off to teh side in the 25-33% will "solve" the issue of not being able to find a charge on a long distance trip.

                                    Assuming the consumer wants to spend 20-30 minutes to “fill ‘er up.”

                                    Right now, I agree. But I also think that battery technology/charging technology will increase immensly.

                                    My prediction is that in between 5-10 years time, a person will be able to recharge a car battery from 0-80% in 10 minutes or less, and that charge will give you a mile distance equivalent to a tank of gas (600 km or so)

                                    (We will have to "revisit" this forum thread in 5 years to see how close I am. 555)

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                                    @taiwan_girl said in $100/1000 miles:

                                    My prediction is that in between 5-10 years time, a person will be able to recharge a car battery from 0-80% in 10 minutes or less, and that charge will give you a mile distance equivalent to a tank of gas (600 km or so)

                                    Hey @LuFins-Dad , imagine the lines at Costco gas charging stations and your time waiting to refuel recharge when each car needs 10 minutes to refuel recharge. 😄

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                                      #25

                                      This one is going to be interesting...You can tow as much as 10,000 pounds or haul a half-ton, but wonder what that does to your battery, especially running the A/C, which is most of the time in the Gulf South.

                                      https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Hydrogen. The current path we are taking towards EV is ultimately a loser, IMO.

                                        The Brad

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                                          Nah, hydrogen is just another battery of sorts, more expensive to move than current.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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