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  • J jon-nyc
    28 May 2020, 02:41

    How is the death rate by age any different from what we knew from Lombardy in March?

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    Loki
    wrote on 28 May 2020, 02:42 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

    How is the death rate by age any different from what we knew from Lombardy in March?

    I guess Cuomo missed that.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 28 May 2020, 02:43 last edited by
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      So you’re not going to answer?

      I thought it was big news?

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        28 May 2020, 02:22

        Sorry. You can assume everyone in NYC over 75 is positive, whether they live in a nursing home or placed in the marathon last November, and the CDC’s IFR still doesn’t make sense.

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        Horace
        wrote on 28 May 2020, 02:49 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

        Sorry. You can assume everyone in NYC over 75 is positive, whether they live in a nursing home or placed in the marathon last November, and the CDC’s IFR still doesn’t make sense.

        Are you talking about the global IFR across all ages?

        Education is extremely important.

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        • J jon-nyc
          28 May 2020, 02:43

          So you’re not going to answer?

          I thought it was big news?

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          Loki
          wrote on 28 May 2020, 02:49 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

          So you’re not going to answer?

          I thought it was big news?

          It was until it was forgotten and we had all the young people that died profiled as evidence that this disease was going after everyone. The fear in this country became quite elevated that everyone was at risk, no?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 28 May 2020, 02:53 last edited by
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            I must have never forgotten. I don’t think you did either because you never passed up a chance to ask about age or co-morbidities.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Horace
              wrote on 28 May 2020, 03:00 last edited by
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              Well considering what the graph of IFR looks like when plotted against age, it is clear that it makes little sense to think or talk about an IFR that applies to everybody. Which renders most uses one sees of IFR borderline meaningless.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • H Horace
                28 May 2020, 03:00

                Well considering what the graph of IFR looks like when plotted against age, it is clear that it makes little sense to think or talk about an IFR that applies to everybody. Which renders most uses one sees of IFR borderline meaningless.

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                @Horace said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

                Well considering what the graph of IFR looks like when plotted against age, it is clear that it makes little sense to think or talk about an IFR that applies to everybody. Which renders most uses one sees of IFR borderline meaningless.

                It would an interesting question to ask 80 years about what is the best way to protect them. Would they want 20%+ unemployment and no opportunity for youth?

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                • J jon-nyc
                  28 May 2020, 02:22

                  Sorry. You can assume everyone in NYC over 75 is positive, whether they live in a nursing home or placed in the marathon last November, and the CDC’s IFR still doesn’t make sense.

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 28 May 2020, 14:47 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

                  Sorry. You can assume everyone in NYC over 75 is positive, whether they live in a nursing home or placed in the marathon last November, and the CDC’s IFR still doesn’t make sense.

                  More evidence NYC is an anomaly.

                  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-28/why-was-new-york-hit-so-badly-with-covid-19

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                  • L Loki
                    28 May 2020, 14:47

                    @jon-nyc said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

                    Sorry. You can assume everyone in NYC over 75 is positive, whether they live in a nursing home or placed in the marathon last November, and the CDC’s IFR still doesn’t make sense.

                    More evidence NYC is an anomaly.

                    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-28/why-was-new-york-hit-so-badly-with-covid-19

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 28 May 2020, 15:35 last edited by
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                    @Loki said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

                    More evidence NYC is an anomaly.

                    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-28/why-was-new-york-hit-so-badly-with-covid-19

                    With New York’s outbreak eclipsing others around the world, it’s logical to look for somebody to blame.

                    Swell.

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                    • L Loki
                      28 May 2020, 03:05

                      @Horace said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

                      Well considering what the graph of IFR looks like when plotted against age, it is clear that it makes little sense to think or talk about an IFR that applies to everybody. Which renders most uses one sees of IFR borderline meaningless.

                      It would an interesting question to ask 80 years about what is the best way to protect them. Would they want 20%+ unemployment and no opportunity for youth?

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:00 last edited by
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                      @Loki said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

                      @Horace said in The Nursing Home Deaths:

                      Well considering what the graph of IFR looks like when plotted against age, it is clear that it makes little sense to think or talk about an IFR that applies to everybody. Which renders most uses one sees of IFR borderline meaningless.

                      It would an interesting question to ask 80 years about what is the best way to protect them. Would they want 20%+ unemployment and no opportunity for youth?

                      Would they want wild parties being thrown on the lake with thousands of people shoulder to shoulder?

                      There is a middle ground, here.

                      The Brad

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 28 May 2020, 18:35 last edited by
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                        The best way to protect them might be to test out the experimental vaccines on the entitled knobheads partying as though there's no tomorrow.

                        I was only joking

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