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  • L Offline
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    Loki
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    I have one circa 2014 PC same config and runs fine. Have it run off SSD as I was afraid the hard drive was dying. It was less than 100 to the best of my recollection. Not sure why your PC is puking.

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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by Klaus
      #5

      I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

      My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

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        jon-nyc
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        #6

        How can I swap to SSD?

        For example, do they make one that fits? (remember this is all-in-one like an iMac)

        When I go to Dell.com there's no evidence my model ever existed.

        Can I move the OS and apps over first?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • KlausK Klaus

          I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

          My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          @Klaus said in PC Help:

          I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

          My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

          How do I do that?

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Klaus said in PC Help:

            I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

            My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

            How do I do that?

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            mark
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @jon-nyc said in PC Help:

            @Klaus said in PC Help:

            I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

            My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

            How do I do that?

            You need a windows install DVD/USB stick, etc.

            You can do a clean install over the existing install and nothing will be lost.

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              89th
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              #9

              For the SSD, you are correct that the first thing is to see what SSD models fit in the computer. I've never dealt with an all-in-one computer though...I'm sure real estate is quite limited! The good news is SSDs are generally smaller/skinnier than HDDs.

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                xenon
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                SSD’s plug into standard connectors inside your computer. There will be tons of YouTube vids to guide here.

                It’s important to note which type of connector you have before buying an SSD (Sata or NVMe PCIe)

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Klaus said in PC Help:

                  I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

                  My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

                  How do I do that?

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on last edited by Klaus
                  #11

                  @jon-nyc said in PC Help:

                  @Klaus said in PC Help:

                  I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

                  My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

                  How do I do that?

                  https://www.dell.com/support/article/de-de/sln130027/factory-reset-restore-or-reinstall-microsoft-windows-on-a-dell-computer?lang=en

                  Note that all data and all installed programs will be lost, so make sure to safe everything that you want to keep.

                  I wouldn't suggest to try a reinstall that keeps old stuff (as Mark suggested) because that will also keep the stuff that slows your PC down. Start again from a blank slate and you'll have the performance as on day one.

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                  • markM mark

                    @jon-nyc said in PC Help:

                    @Klaus said in PC Help:

                    I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

                    My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

                    How do I do that?

                    You need a windows install DVD/USB stick, etc.

                    You can do a clean install over the existing install and nothing will be lost.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    @mark said in PC Help:

                    @jon-nyc said in PC Help:

                    @Klaus said in PC Help:

                    I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

                    My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

                    How do I do that?

                    You need a windows install DVD/USB stick, etc.

                    You can do a clean install over the existing install and nothing will be lost.

                    Looks like I can do it straight from Windows. This from the Dell site:

                    Screen Shot 2020-05-27 at 3.13.54 PM.png

                    Seems ambiguous, it keeps my files but I need to reinstall apps? How does that work?

                    (not that I care, it's just Minecraft)

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      @jon-nyc said in PC Help:

                      @Klaus said in PC Help:

                      I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

                      My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

                      How do I do that?

                      https://www.dell.com/support/article/de-de/sln130027/factory-reset-restore-or-reinstall-microsoft-windows-on-a-dell-computer?lang=en

                      Note that all data and all installed programs will be lost, so make sure to safe everything that you want to keep.

                      I wouldn't suggest to try a reinstall that keeps old stuff (as Mark suggested) because that will also keep the stuff that slows your PC down. Start again from a blank slate and you'll have the performance as on day one.

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                      mark
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      @Klaus said in PC Help:

                      @jon-nyc said in PC Help:

                      @Klaus said in PC Help:

                      I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

                      My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

                      How do I do that?

                      https://www.dell.com/support/article/de-de/sln130027/factory-reset-restore-or-reinstall-microsoft-windows-on-a-dell-computer?lang=en

                      Note that all data and all installed programs will be lost, so make sure to safe everything that you want to keep.

                      I wouldn't suggest to try a reinstall that keeps old stuff (as Mark suggested) because that will also keep the stuff that slows your PC down.

                      It's the safest and easiest thing to try first. It might just help. Sometimes the system itself just gets corrupted.

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                      • markM mark

                        @Klaus said in PC Help:

                        @jon-nyc said in PC Help:

                        @Klaus said in PC Help:

                        I'd try a fresh Windows installation.

                        My guess is that he installed all kinds of "stuff". Windows is well-known for degenerating and becoming slower over time.

                        How do I do that?

                        https://www.dell.com/support/article/de-de/sln130027/factory-reset-restore-or-reinstall-microsoft-windows-on-a-dell-computer?lang=en

                        Note that all data and all installed programs will be lost, so make sure to safe everything that you want to keep.

                        I wouldn't suggest to try a reinstall that keeps old stuff (as Mark suggested) because that will also keep the stuff that slows your PC down.

                        It's the safest and easiest thing to try first. It might just help. Sometimes the system itself just gets corrupted.

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                        Klaus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @mark said in PC Help:

                        's the safest and easiest thing to try first. It might just help.

                        That's true, one could first try this and if that doesn't help to the "clean slate" approach I suggested.

                        However, as far as I understand, no important stuff is stored or installed on the PC, so it may not be worth bothering with saving old stuff and just make everything fresh.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          @mark said in PC Help:

                          's the safest and easiest thing to try first. It might just help.

                          That's true, one could first try this and if that doesn't help to the "clean slate" approach I suggested.

                          However, as far as I understand, no important stuff is stored or installed on the PC, so it may not be worth bothering with saving old stuff and just make everything fresh.

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                          mark
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          @Klaus said in PC Help:

                          That's true, one could first try this and if that doesn't help to the "clean slate" approach I suggested.
                          However, as far as I understand, no important stuff is stored or installed on the PC, so it may not be worth bothering with saving old stuff and just make everything fresh.

                          Yes, but this is available to use now and without any additional steps.

                          Try it. You have nothing to lose. Especially since you said there is nothing on the machine but Minecraft.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            Jon, the same thing happened to Lucas’ computer when he was playing a lot of Minecraft. There are a lot of little 3rd party downloads these kids install that are safe and from trusted sites but are poorly written and slow the hell out of everything.

                            The Brad

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                            • MikM Away
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              Do you use CCleaner or some such on it?

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Do you use CCleaner or some such on it?

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                @Mik said in PC Help:

                                Do you use CCleaner or some such on it?

                                My impression is that so many of these "utilities" install a bunch of crap.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  CCLeaner doesn't seem to. Cleans things up nice too.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by Copper
                                    #20

                                    I use CCleaner, it is OK

                                    If you have some time and you are curious here are 2 things to try


                                    1

                                    Go down to the bottom left where it says "Type here to search"

                                    Type "Task manager" no quotes

                                    When the App logo comes up, click it

                                    On the processes Tab click the CPU column to sort by CPU use and see if something is hogging the machine

                                    Look around to see if there is something that looks odd


                                    2

                                    Go down to the bottom left where it says "Type here to search"

                                    Type "Event Viewer" no quotes

                                    This will probably run kind of slowly

                                    This is where lots of different Logs are kept

                                    I once had a problem where the machine was running very slowly for no apparent reason. I used this App to find a log message that was being repeated 10-20 times per second. It was an error trying to read the DVD drive happening a couple dozen times per second. There wasn't even a disk in the drive, it was idle. I disconnected the DVD drive and all of a sudden the machine was fast again.

                                    Flip through some logs, you might spot something.

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                                      taiwan_girl
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                                      I dont know if the windows computers work the same, but @George-K and @Axtremus had great advice when I was having a similar problem with my Apple computer.

                                      Get an external docking station and and external SSD.

                                      Worked great for me!! Below is the thread that discuss this.

                                      Making iMac faster

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #22

                                        Taiwan_Girl:
                                        I dont know if the windows computers work the same, but @George-K and @Axtremus had great advice when I was having a similar problem with my Apple computer.

                                        They got lucky, that's all. Wild guesses. Blind squirrel, deaf hog, grenades, and such.
                                        Place appropriate emoji here ---> X

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          @Rainman 😂 😂 😂

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