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They are subjects and they like it that way.

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  • X xenon

    Canada is a constitutional monarchy - so all power, on paper, has to come from the sovereign. Even though in practice they have none.

    But the guy in the article says something to the effect of, let’s not be surprised when the government decides to go totalitarian in an “emergency” because of that.

    Recent U.S. President’s have even pretty quick to make up their own rules because of an “emergency”.

    Sure, the origin story Canadians and Americans tell themselves are vastly different - I don’t see that much daylight in how they operate though.

    My day to day life has been pretty similar in the US and Canada.

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    @xenon

    Canada is a constitutional monarchy - so all power, on paper, has to come from the sovereign. Even though in practice they have none.

    More accurately, Canada is a Parliamentary Democracy.

    We ceased being a Constitutional Monarchy during the 1920’s in the aftermath of the King Byng Affair.

    https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/king-byng-affair

    The United Kingdom is a Constitutional Monarchy but the former Dominions of the Empire, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, are Parliamentary Democracies that recognise the British monarch and her/his representative as their nominal head of state.

    Elbows up!

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      The US has a plenty long record of denying various folks their supposedly inalienable rights. Ask any interned Japanese or Native American.

      It's a nice ideal, but it is not consistently practiced.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Yeah, but at least we're ashamed afterwards and often try to make amends.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Yeah, but at least we're ashamed afterwards and often try to make amends.

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          @Jolly said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

          Yeah, but at least we're ashamed afterwards and often try to make amends.

          And others don’t?

          Think again.

          Elbows up!

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            Oh, I see the lad is ready to start again.

            TNCR rules?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Mik

              The US has a plenty long record of denying various folks their supposedly inalienable rights. Ask any interned Japanese or Native American.

              It's a nice ideal, but it is not consistently practiced.

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              @Mik said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

              Ask any interned Japanese or Native American.

              Or any European-American male TV commercial actor.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Oh, I see the lad is ready to start again.

                TNCR rules?

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                @Jolly said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

                Oh, I see the lad is ready to start again.

                TNCR rules?

                Like I said, think again. My point is that feeling ashamed and making amends to aboriginal peoples and Japanese internees and their descendants is not exclusive to the USA.

                So you can put your sabre back in its sheath.

                Elbows up!

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                  We don’t obey in this country.

                  How many of you know someone who died needlessly from COVID because of ignorant 'Murrican values?

                  Fuck this guy. From the morons who invoke their "rights" to eat dewormer paste and get deathly ill instead of get a damn shot to the morons who invoke their "rights" to have safe spaces and get co-workers fired because they consider height a micro-aggression, we don't need any more rights in America. We're children run amok and breaking shit in Pier One because our parents have a soft touch. We need responsibilities, personal and social.

                  Show me what you're doing to practice responsible citizenship out there in the world. If you are, please double down, because we have a shortage. If all you're doing is demanding your "rights" be honored, shove your exceptionalism and your rights firmly up your ass.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    What do have against Mik's kinfolk ?😄

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      We don’t obey in this country.

                      How many of you know someone who died needlessly from COVID because of ignorant 'Murrican values?

                      Fuck this guy. From the morons who invoke their "rights" to eat dewormer paste and get deathly ill instead of get a damn shot to the morons who invoke their "rights" to have safe spaces and get co-workers fired because they consider height a micro-aggression, we don't need any more rights in America. We're children run amok and breaking shit in Pier One because our parents have a soft touch. We need responsibilities, personal and social.

                      Show me what you're doing to practice responsible citizenship out there in the world. If you are, please double down, because we have a shortage. If all you're doing is demanding your "rights" be honored, shove your exceptionalism and your rights firmly up your ass.

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

                      We don’t obey in this country.

                      How many of you know someone who died needlessly from COVID because of ignorant 'Murrican values?

                      Fuck this guy. From the morons who invoke their "rights" to eat dewormer paste and get deathly ill instead of get a damn shot to the morons who invoke their "rights" to have safe spaces and get co-workers fired because they consider height a micro-aggression, we don't need any more rights in America. We're children run amok and breaking shit in Pier One because our parents have a soft touch. We need responsibilities, personal and social.

                      Show me what you're doing to practice responsible citizenship out there in the world. If you are, please double down, because we have a shortage. If all you're doing is demanding your "rights" be honored, shove your exceptionalism and your rights firmly up your ass.

                      1. I’ve always felt that way too many Americans focus on “rights” and I have long championed a “Bill of Responsibilities” to temper people’s perceived “rights”.

                      2. Personally? I know4 people that have died from COVID. 3 had Type II Diabetes and all had Vitamin D deficiencies.

                      3. And you’ll agree when you get older… When the shit hits the fan is the moment when you most need to hold to simple and basic ideals and is not when you suspend your ideals for the “common good”.

                      4. Rights that can be rescinded on a Governmental whim aren’t rights.

                      Love ya, Aqua, but I feel Hunter nailed this.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

                        We don’t obey in this country.

                        How many of you know someone who died needlessly from COVID because of ignorant 'Murrican values?

                        Fuck this guy. From the morons who invoke their "rights" to eat dewormer paste and get deathly ill instead of get a damn shot to the morons who invoke their "rights" to have safe spaces and get co-workers fired because they consider height a micro-aggression, we don't need any more rights in America. We're children run amok and breaking shit in Pier One because our parents have a soft touch. We need responsibilities, personal and social.

                        Show me what you're doing to practice responsible citizenship out there in the world. If you are, please double down, because we have a shortage. If all you're doing is demanding your "rights" be honored, shove your exceptionalism and your rights firmly up your ass.

                        1. I’ve always felt that way too many Americans focus on “rights” and I have long championed a “Bill of Responsibilities” to temper people’s perceived “rights”.

                        2. Personally? I know4 people that have died from COVID. 3 had Type II Diabetes and all had Vitamin D deficiencies.

                        3. And you’ll agree when you get older… When the shit hits the fan is the moment when you most need to hold to simple and basic ideals and is not when you suspend your ideals for the “common good”.

                        4. Rights that can be rescinded on a Governmental whim aren’t rights.

                        Love ya, Aqua, but I feel Hunter nailed this.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

                        Rights that can be rescinded on a Governmental whim aren’t rights.

                        Post of the day.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

                          We don’t obey in this country.

                          How many of you know someone who died needlessly from COVID because of ignorant 'Murrican values?

                          Fuck this guy. From the morons who invoke their "rights" to eat dewormer paste and get deathly ill instead of get a damn shot to the morons who invoke their "rights" to have safe spaces and get co-workers fired because they consider height a micro-aggression, we don't need any more rights in America. We're children run amok and breaking shit in Pier One because our parents have a soft touch. We need responsibilities, personal and social.

                          Show me what you're doing to practice responsible citizenship out there in the world. If you are, please double down, because we have a shortage. If all you're doing is demanding your "rights" be honored, shove your exceptionalism and your rights firmly up your ass.

                          1. I’ve always felt that way too many Americans focus on “rights” and I have long championed a “Bill of Responsibilities” to temper people’s perceived “rights”.

                          2. Personally? I know4 people that have died from COVID. 3 had Type II Diabetes and all had Vitamin D deficiencies.

                          3. And you’ll agree when you get older… When the shit hits the fan is the moment when you most need to hold to simple and basic ideals and is not when you suspend your ideals for the “common good”.

                          4. Rights that can be rescinded on a Governmental whim aren’t rights.

                          Love ya, Aqua, but I feel Hunter nailed this.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They are subjects and they like it that way.:

                          We don’t obey in this country.

                          How many of you know someone who died needlessly from COVID because of ignorant 'Murrican values?

                          Fuck this guy. From the morons who invoke their "rights" to eat dewormer paste and get deathly ill instead of get a damn shot to the morons who invoke their "rights" to have safe spaces and get co-workers fired because they consider height a micro-aggression, we don't need any more rights in America. We're children run amok and breaking shit in Pier One because our parents have a soft touch. We need responsibilities, personal and social.

                          Show me what you're doing to practice responsible citizenship out there in the world. If you are, please double down, because we have a shortage. If all you're doing is demanding your "rights" be honored, shove your exceptionalism and your rights firmly up your ass.

                          1. I’ve always felt that way too many Americans focus on “rights” and I have long championed a “Bill of Responsibilities” to temper people’s perceived “rights”.

                          I hear ideas like that from a whole lot of people who only mention it after I bring it up first. Just sayin'.

                          Please love yourself.

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