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I don't trust the police.

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Another angle on the weapons cache story...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10528163/Joanne-Person-Alberta-arrest.html

    BTW, I know multiple people who have four or five times the number of firearms supposedly seized in the raid. Different societies, I guess.

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    Renauda
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    @Jolly

    That’s odd, I do trust what the RCMP are saying about these arrests and weapons seizures.

    Must be a tribal thing, eh?

    Elbows up!

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      Never trust the government.

      Never.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Never trust the government.

        Never.

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        Renauda
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        #4

        @Jolly

        Like I already said, I trust that what the RCMP is reporting about this take down is true.

        Sorry for the inconvenience if that is in contradiction of what you want to believe.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @Jolly

          Like I already said, I trust that what the RCMP is reporting about this take down is true.

          Sorry for the inconvenience if that is in contradiction of what you want to believe.

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          @Renauda said in I don't trust the police.:

          @Jolly

          Like I already said, I trust that what the RCMP is reporting about this take down is true.

          Sorry for the inconvenience if that is in contradiction of what you want to believe.

          I can't believe anybody who lived in the old U.S.S.R. and studied any of its history, would have implicit faith in any government...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            People self-select by their relative weightings of security vs personal liberty.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Renauda said in I don't trust the police.:

              @Jolly

              Like I already said, I trust that what the RCMP is reporting about this take down is true.

              Sorry for the inconvenience if that is in contradiction of what you want to believe.

              I can't believe anybody who lived in the old U.S.S.R. and studied any of its history, would have implicit faith in any government...

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              @Jolly said in I don't trust the police.:

              @Renauda said in I don't trust the police.:

              @Jolly

              Like I already said, I trust that what the RCMP is reporting about this take down is true.

              Sorry for the inconvenience if that is in contradiction of what you want to believe.

              I can't believe anybody who lived in the old U.S.S.R. and studied any of its history, would have implicit faith in any government...

              And I can’t believe that you can be so obtuse as to draw any parallel with the RCMP actions in Coutts or the Government of Canada with my experience of studying or living in “the old USSR”.

              Elbows up!

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                Government, lad, government.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  I really don't have a dog in this fight. While I am sympathetic to the trucker's position, holding a city hostage? Nope, that's not right.

                  On the other hand, if my side thought the correct answer was to financially ruin these people, try to starve them out, and threaten to kill their dogs? I'd have to reexamine my position.

                  The Brad

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                    You forgot about taking their children away...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      I really don't have a dog in this fight. While I am sympathetic to the trucker's position, holding a city hostage? Nope, that's not right.

                      On the other hand, if my side thought the correct answer was to financially ruin these people, try to starve them out, and threaten to kill their dogs? I'd have to reexamine my position.

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                      Renauda
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                      No one has had their children taken away.

                      Elbows up!

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                        Nope. But they were threatened.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          But, they can joke about horses trampling people...While enjoying their accomodations...

                          https://www.rebelnews.com/leaked_rcmp_messages_time_for_the_protesters_to_hear_our_jackboots_on_the_ground

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            BTW, revenge and retribution seem to be the theme of the day...

                            https://westphaliantimes.com/ottawa-police-chief-says-law-enforcement-will-come-after-protestors-even-if-they-go-home/

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ottawa-s-police-chief-says-operations-will-continue-until-residents-get-their-streets-back-1.5788739

                              Elbows up!

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Never trust the government.

                                Never.

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                                @Jolly said in I don't trust the police.:

                                Never trust the government.

                                Never.

                                Word to your mother.

                                Link to video

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Government, lad, government.

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                                  @Jolly said in I don't trust the police.:

                                  Government, lad, government.

                                  (b371e27c-b168-4aff-80e9-cacae5cfe1d7-image.png

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                                    https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/we-will-actively-look-to-identify-you-ottawa-police-chief-warns-departed-protesters/wcm/0dd58fd1-94ee-40e7-9b29-fb69d26fac40/amp/

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/we-will-actively-look-to-identify-you-ottawa-police-chief-warns-departed-protesters/wcm/0dd58fd1-94ee-40e7-9b29-fb69d26fac40/amp/

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                                      @Renauda said in I don't trust the police.:

                                      https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/we-will-actively-look-to-identify-you-ottawa-police-chief-warns-departed-protesters/wcm/0dd58fd1-94ee-40e7-9b29-fb69d26fac40/amp/

                                      From your perspective, why is it better for the public good for the police to track down the protesters and file fines and criminal charges?

                                      Serious question, because here, they'd probably disperse the crowd, maybe arrest some who are the most adamant about making a scene and not pursue it from there. If they did that in Canada, why would it not be enough to just disperse the crowd?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Revenge and retribution.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Renauda said in I don't trust the police.:

                                          https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/we-will-actively-look-to-identify-you-ottawa-police-chief-warns-departed-protesters/wcm/0dd58fd1-94ee-40e7-9b29-fb69d26fac40/amp/

                                          From your perspective, why is it better for the public good for the police to track down the protesters and file fines and criminal charges?

                                          Serious question, because here, they'd probably disperse the crowd, maybe arrest some who are the most adamant about making a scene and not pursue it from there. If they did that in Canada, why would it not be enough to just disperse the crowd?

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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in I don't trust the police.:

                                          From your perspective, why is it better for the public good for the police to track down the protesters and file fines and criminal charges?

                                          Serious question, because here, they'd probably disperse the crowd, maybe arrest some who are the most adamant about making a scene and not pursue it from there. If they did that in Canada, why would it not be enough to just disperse the crowd?

                                          Your serious question regarding Canadian law enforcement would be more objectively and accurately answered by one of your fellow countrymen who have greater expertise in Canadian affairs than my own. After all, I only live here.

                                          Nevertheless, I’ll try to answer you from the perspective of law enforcement.

                                          It is about accountability. Contrary to what you may be led to believe, the police will only track down those protesters who on video surveillance during the protest, or eye witness accounts indicate an individual or group of engaged in some sort of criminal behaviour. In this case usually acts of public mischief or vandalism to property.

                                          Protesters not observed being engaged in criminal activities will be not be tracked down by police and charged with any criminal offence.

                                          This a common police practice here during any acts of disobedience, large scale protests and high security events such as the G8 summit. It has often been used in the wake of our much publicised and often violent hockey riots that have occurred in Montreal and Vancouver.

                                          I support it and I support our law enforcement officers. The way they managed and dispersed the occupiers in Ottawa was exemplary.

                                          Elbows up!

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