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First flight of NASA astronauts from U.S. soil in nearly nine years

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 01:36 last edited by
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    Zero.

    Apollo 1 burned on the ground with grishom, white and Chaffee in it.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 01:38 last edited by
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      Chaffee was a member of my fraternity at Purdue, years before me of course. We had his picture in the foyer and a plaque above the door of his old room.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        19 Apr 2020, 01:36

        Zero.

        Apollo 1 burned on the ground with grishom, white and Chaffee in it.

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        George K
        wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 01:39 last edited by George K
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        @jon-nyc said in First flight of NASA astronauts from U.S. soil in nearly nine years:

        Zero.

        Apollo 1 burned on the ground with grishom Grissom, white and Chaffee in it.

        Just found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions

        Apollo 4, 5, and 6 were unmanned missions.

        There was some incongruity in the numbering and naming of the first three uncrewed Apollo-Saturn (AS), or Apollo flights. This is due to AS-204 being renamed to Apollo 1 posthumously. This crewed flight was to have followed the first three unmanned flights. After the fire which killed the AS-204 crew on the pad during a test and training exercise, unmanned Apollo flights resumed to test the Saturn V launch vehicle and the Lunar Module; these were designated Apollo 4, 5 and 6. The first crewed Apollo mission was thus Apollo 7. Simple "Apollo" numbers were never assigned to the first three unmanned flights, although renaming AS-201, AS-202, and AS-203 as Apollo 1-A, Apollo 2 and Apollo 3, had been briefly considered

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        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          19 Apr 2020, 01:09

          The last time American astronauts left US soil was aboard a Space Shuttle.

          Before that, it was the Apollo program, iirc.

          How many unmanned flights did Apollo do before we put astronauts into the spacecraft?

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          89th
          wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 17:48 last edited by
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          @George-K said in [First flight of NASA astronauts from U.S. soil in nearly nine years]

          How many unmanned flights did Apollo do before we put astronauts into the spacecraft?

          Sexist. What if a woman astronaut was on board?

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            George K
            wrote on 26 May 2020, 12:47 last edited by
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            It's a Go! Tomorrow at 4:30 ET.

            https://gizmodo.com/nasa-and-spacex-are-go-for-historic-launch-of-crew-dr-1843654898

            Lookit the spiffy spacesuits!

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Copper
              wrote on 26 May 2020, 14:35 last edited by
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              Sorry, but I really think they look silly.

              A cross between Devo and 60s mod, with wellies.

              It just doesn't look right.

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                mark
                wrote on 26 May 2020, 14:45 last edited by
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                They look a lot more comfortable than the old suites. They are more than likely a lot more high tech and safer.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 26 May 2020, 20:04 last edited by
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                  Is the car a Tesla?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 26 May 2020, 20:20 last edited by
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                    Astronauts used to all drive Corvettes.

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                      26 May 2020, 20:04

                      Is the car a Tesla?

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                      George K
                      wrote on 26 May 2020, 20:53 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in First flight of NASA astronauts from U.S. soil in nearly nine years:

                      Is the car a Tesla?

                      Yup. Model X.

                      https://nypost.com/2020/05/15/nasa-reveals-custom-tesla-car-that-will-ferry-astronauts-to-us-rocket-launch/

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 27 May 2020, 01:00 last edited by
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                        I’m excited to watch

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 27 May 2020, 02:17 last edited by
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                          Fun Fact: The emergency escape system can kick in, if necessary, all the way to orbit.

                          https://www.wate.com/news/national-world/stormy-weather-puts-damper-on-spacexs-1st-astronaut-launch/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_WATE_6_On_Your_Side&fbclid=IwAR2GkHT8usHOWvASpl7-CBQijCSxFjqw6ruEt5SuYWRaqWnb45vrf7xz1t0

                          Stormy weather puts damper on SpaceX’s 1st astronaut launch

                          CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) — Stormy weather is threatening to delay SpaceX’s first astronaut launch.

                          A SpaceX rocket is scheduled to blast off Wednesday afternoon from Kennedy Space Center, carrying a Dragon capsule with NASA astronauts Doug Hurley and Bob Behnken to the International Space Station. It will be the first time astronauts launch from Florida in nine years and a first for a private company.

                          The manager of NASA’s commercial crew program, Kathy Lueders, said everything was progressing well — at least on the ground.

                          “Now the only thing we need to do is figure out how to control the weather,” she said Monday evening as rain continued to drench the area. “We’re continuing to be vigilant and careful and make sure we do this right.”

                          Forecasters put the odds of acceptable launch weather at 40%. But that doesn’t include the conditions all the way up the U.S. and Canadian coasts and across the sea to Ireland — a complicated mix of measurements unique to the Dragon crew capsule.

                          The Dragon’s emergency escape system can kick in, if necessary, all the way to orbit. If that happens, the capsule will need relatively calm wind and seas in which to splash down.

                          SpaceX will have at least two recovery ships deployed off Florida, and NASA will have two military cargo planes ready to take off. Additional planes will be stationed in New York and England to assist with a potential water rescue, according to Lueders.

                          Hans Koenigsmann, a vice president for SpaceX, said the launch control team will incorporate global weather patterns and models to determine whether it’s safe to launch.

                          “If the weather gods are working with us,” he said, liftoff will occur at 4:33 p.m. SpaceX has a split-second launch window.

                          The good news is that the tropical weather headed toward Cape Canaveral should be gone in a couple days, with conditions also improving up the Eastern Seaboard later in the week.

                          If SpaceX doesn’t launch Wednesday, its next attempt would be Saturday.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 27 May 2020, 13:13 last edited by Copper
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                            According to NASA’s list of launch commit criteria for the SpaceX crew launch, the flight will not proceed if downrange weather shows a high probability of violating limits at splashdown in the event of a Dragon launch escape maneuver.

                            I suspect a tropical storm off the Carolinas violates limits.

                            But this from CBS 3 hours ago

                            "I would say it's looking OK," said Daniel Forrestel, launch integration manager for NASA's Commercial Crew Program. "I think our biggest risk right now is the weather on the pad. ... But it's never completely risk free downrange."

                            Launch managers will make a final assessment about 45 minutes before launch when the astronauts would normally arm the abort system a few minutes before fueling begins. If the weather is not favorable, launch will be called off at that point and the team will recycle for a second launch try Saturday at 3:21 p.m.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 27 May 2020, 18:29 last edited by
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                              Live now:

                              Link to video

                              It's amazing how uncluttered the interior looks, compared with the 1970s tech of the Shuttle.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 27 May 2020, 18:38 last edited by
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                                I've been watching...very cool all around. From having their suit checks in the same room where the last Shuttle crew got ready, to the drive to the pad via Teslas (not the silver van/bus), to the interior (like @George-K said) which is ridiculously streamlined. Mostly because nearly everything is within the touchscreen. The abort handle is below their middle screen, btw.

                                Oh and the weather latest...the storm risking today's launch is "eroding" which is good news for a launch decision.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 27 May 2020, 18:46 last edited by
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                                  And Trump Force One is making an approach.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 27 May 2020, 18:51 last edited by
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                                    Looks like there's some serious rain coming down. I take it that's not an issue?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 27 May 2020, 19:11 last edited by
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                                      Depends, did the windshield wipers get installed in time?

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 27 May 2020, 20:17 last edited by
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                                        Launch scrubbed because of weather.

                                        Damn.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 27 May 2020, 20:18 last edited by
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                                          Come on Elon Musk, control the weather!!!

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