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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #29

    Yeah and it helps to have two large academic centers using the same EMR.

    If I go to Westchester radiology, the most convenient place, I still have to FedEx a cd.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • brendaB brenda

      @horace said in Torn ACL:

      Thanks Ax and all.

      Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

      For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

      HoraceH Online
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #30

      @brenda said in Torn ACL:

      @horace said in Torn ACL:

      Thanks Ax and all.

      Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

      For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

      Thank you Brenda.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Online
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by Horace
        #31

        On the visit to the ortho and then the visit to the MRI center I apparently picked up a virus and I have never been floored by a virus but I was by this one. Standing up, well, the combination of needing to do it with a torn ACL, and also needing to do it because I have to walk down the stairs to get from my bedroom to the one bathroom in the house with enough room for me to sit down on the commode with an extended leg, made me slightly familiar with what it is to be incapacitated. This particular virus has intestinal symptoms, you see. My wife has been a huge help but coincidentally she was in China at the time. She enlisted the help of friends and they cooked and cleaned for me. And most importantly took the dogs out for me. People have been so kind, it's been a revelation for me. I lost my glasses at some point and called my optometrist and the receptionist delivered new glasses to my door. A friend from work volunteered to deliver to me a home covid test, and I accepted. We hadn't seen each other in years, due to covid. I appreciated it. I think my fevered mind was able to run the test adequately and I think it was negative.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #32

          You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

            HoraceH Online
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by Horace
            #33

            @mik said in Torn ACL:

            You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

            Well I think everybody would be, when they are in need. People can sense when you are in need, and then they really want to help.

            Which is not to minimize the individuals who do help, and who try harder than others to help.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              On the visit to the ortho and then the visit to the MRI center I apparently picked up a virus and I have never been floored by a virus but I was by this one. Standing up, well, the combination of needing to do it with a torn ACL, and also needing to do it because I have to walk down the stairs to get from my bedroom to the one bathroom in the house with enough room for me to sit down on the commode with an extended leg, made me slightly familiar with what it is to be incapacitated. This particular virus has intestinal symptoms, you see. My wife has been a huge help but coincidentally she was in China at the time. She enlisted the help of friends and they cooked and cleaned for me. And most importantly took the dogs out for me. People have been so kind, it's been a revelation for me. I lost my glasses at some point and called my optometrist and the receptionist delivered new glasses to my door. A friend from work volunteered to deliver to me a home covid test, and I accepted. We hadn't seen each other in years, due to covid. I appreciated it. I think my fevered mind was able to run the test adequately and I think it was negative.

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              Jolly
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              #34

              @horace said in Torn ACL:

              On the visit to the ortho and then the visit to the MRI center I apparently picked up a virus and I have never been floored by a virus but I was by this one. Standing up, well, the combination of needing to do it with a torn ACL, and also needing to do it because I have to walk down the stairs to get from my bedroom to the one bathroom in the house with enough room for me to sit down on the commode with an extended leg, made me slightly familiar with what it is to be incapacitated. This particular virus has intestinal symptoms, you see. My wife has been a huge help but coincidentally she was in China at the time. She enlisted the help of friends and they cooked and cleaned for me. And most importantly took the dogs out for me. People have been so kind, it's been a revelation for me. I lost my glasses at some point and called my optometrist and the receptionist delivered new glasses to my door. A friend from work volunteered to deliver to me a home covid test, and I accepted. We hadn't seen each other in years, due to covid. I appreciated it. I think my fevered mind was able to run the test adequately and I think it was negative.

              Really nasty intestinal bug making the rounds down here. Wouldn't surprise me if you had something similar.

              I hope and pray you feel better soon.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @mik said in Torn ACL:

                You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

                Well I think everybody would be, when they are in need. People can sense when you are in need, and then they really want to help.

                Which is not to minimize the individuals who do help, and who try harder than others to help.

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                brenda
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                #35

                @horace said in Torn ACL:

                @mik said in Torn ACL:

                You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

                Well I think everybody would be, when they are in need. People can sense when you are in need, and then they really want to help.

                Which is not to minimize the individuals who do help, and who try harder than others to help.

                And you are loved. 🙂

                You have the blessing of friends, which is a great thing. I hope you recover soon and have your ACL treated as soon as possible. Hugs to you, Horace.

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                  #36

                  It is heartening when we receive such support. I'm glad you've got good people in your world. Be gentle with that ACL tear. My spouse is contending with a severe tear and feels pretty fragile. Slip sliding around on snow and ice makes life challenging.

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    It is heartening when we receive such support. I'm glad you've got good people in your world. Be gentle with that ACL tear. My spouse is contending with a severe tear and feels pretty fragile. Slip sliding around on snow and ice makes life challenging.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #37

                    @kluurs said in Torn ACL:

                    It is heartening when we receive such support. I'm glad you've got good people in your world. Be gentle with that ACL tear. My spouse is contending with a severe tear and feels pretty fragile. Slip sliding around on snow and ice makes life challenging.

                    Does she need surgery?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      kluurs
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #38

                      They want her to do surgery as they described it as a complex tear. She's been reluctant to pursue that - but she's very unstable on her feet. This has been going on for months.

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                      • brendaB brenda

                        @horace said in Torn ACL:

                        @mik said in Torn ACL:

                        You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

                        Well I think everybody would be, when they are in need. People can sense when you are in need, and then they really want to help.

                        Which is not to minimize the individuals who do help, and who try harder than others to help.

                        And you are loved. 🙂

                        You have the blessing of friends, which is a great thing. I hope you recover soon and have your ACL treated as soon as possible. Hugs to you, Horace.

                        HoraceH Online
                        HoraceH Online
                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #39

                        @brenda said in Torn ACL:

                        @horace said in Torn ACL:

                        @mik said in Torn ACL:

                        You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

                        Well I think everybody would be, when they are in need. People can sense when you are in need, and then they really want to help.

                        Which is not to minimize the individuals who do help, and who try harder than others to help.

                        And you are loved. 🙂

                        You have the blessing of friends, which is a great thing. I hope you recover soon and have your ACL treated as soon as possible. Hugs to you, Horace.

                        Thank you, Brenda. Hugs to you too.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #40

                          Wow what a shitty combination. I hope it passes soon and very good to know people are helping.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            George K
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                            #41

                            Oh, man. Sorry to hear this, Horace. Get over it quickly!

                            Any update on the knee when you know something too!

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • HoraceH Online
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #42

                              Finally got in to the ortho today. While there is a partial tear to the ACL, for all he knows it’s long standing. The primary injury turns out to be the same as what happened to my right knee, a quad tendon rupture. Not completely ruptured this time but significantly so and I’ll need surgery. 5 weeks now since the injury, which is worrisome. They like to get these fixed within 3 weeks. But the doc says it’s still fixable. Surgery will be ASAP. Wish I could have gotten in here sooner. The surgery would have been over and done with by now.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #43

                                Oh man. I hope it all works out Horace.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                                  #44

                                  With an injury and a history of knee surgery they could not see you sooner? Wow.

                                  Edit; re-read the thread. Now I understand.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Oh man. I hope it all works out Horace.

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                                    brenda
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                                    #45

                                    @jon-nyc said in Torn ACL:

                                    Oh man. I hope it all works out Horace.

                                    +1 Glad your doc sees it as still repairable. Just think of all the extra time you will have to post here on TNCR as you recuperate. 🙂

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                                      xenon
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                                      #46

                                      Human knees are just a mess. Hope for all the best, Horace. On the bright-side most people I know with ACL issues seem to make full recoveries.

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                                      • X xenon

                                        Human knees are just a mess. Hope for all the best, Horace. On the bright-side most people I know with ACL issues seem to make full recoveries.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #47

                                        @xenon said in Torn ACL:

                                        Human knees are just a mess. Hope for all the best, Horace. On the bright-side most people I know with ACL issues seem to make full recoveries.

                                        Turns out mine's not really an ACL primarily, it's another ruptured quad tendon. Not totally ruptured, which I hope might have helped to keep the muscle in place over these 5 weeks. Not sure how this stuff works, maybe parts of the quad muscle can still retreat independently even if the tear to the tendon is only partial. There are four pieces to the quad, as they say.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Friday
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                                          #48

                                          Just saw this.

                                          Horace, I'm so sorry to hear about your ruptured quad tendon. Hope all goes well with the surgery and recovery.

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