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The numbers are not the numbers

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  • MikM Offline
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    ..in the January jobs report. Thus saith Psaki.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-white-house-is-trying-to-prepare-americans-for-a-strange-jobs-report/ar-AATnlmn?ocid=msedgntp

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        The numbers as released on Friday, Feb. 4, 2022:

        https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

        “Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 467,000 in January.”

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          I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

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            @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

            I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

            No, that's exactly how it should work. The numbers are independently calculated. They're not supposed to know, or have any influence.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

              I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

              No, that's exactly how it should work. The numbers are independently calculated. They're not supposed to know, or have any influence.

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              @aqua-letifer said in The numbers are not the numbers:

              @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

              I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

              No, that's exactly how it should work. The numbers are independently calculated. They're not supposed to know, or have any influence.

              Si, but SecLab should should have a pretty good feel of whether the numbers are good, bad, or so-so based on their own work…

              The Brad

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                Numbers are bad: Joe Biden sucks!

                Numbers are good: Why didn't Joe Biden know they were going to be good???? Joe Biden sucks!

                I was only joking

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @aqua-letifer said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                  @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                  I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

                  No, that's exactly how it should work. The numbers are independently calculated. They're not supposed to know, or have any influence.

                  Si, but SecLab should should have a pretty good feel of whether the numbers are good, bad, or so-so based on their own work…

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                  @aqua-letifer said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                  @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                  I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

                  No, that's exactly how it should work. The numbers are independently calculated. They're not supposed to know, or have any influence.

                  Si, but SecLab should should have a pretty good feel of whether the numbers are good, bad, or so-so based on their own work…

                  SecLab doesn't decide the formula.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                    @aqua-letifer said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                    @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                    I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

                    No, that's exactly how it should work. The numbers are independently calculated. They're not supposed to know, or have any influence.

                    Si, but SecLab should should have a pretty good feel of whether the numbers are good, bad, or so-so based on their own work…

                    SecLab doesn't decide the formula.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    @aqua-letifer said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                    @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                    @aqua-letifer said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                    @lufins-dad said in The numbers are not the numbers:

                    I don’t get it. The numbers weren’t bad, so why all the fuss? Unless they didn’t know the numbers weren’t bad? That’s actually kind of troubling…

                    No, that's exactly how it should work. The numbers are independently calculated. They're not supposed to know, or have any influence.

                    Si, but SecLab should should have a pretty good feel of whether the numbers are good, bad, or so-so based on their own work…

                    SecLab doesn't decide the formula.

                    The formula and the exact numbers aren’t what I’m talking about. Just a general feel for how employment numbers looked. The department should have certainly been in regular contact with various trade and labor groups and should have a general feel for whether these groups are seeing large drops in new hires and layoffs… The fact that they were expecting something different than what they saw tells me that either there has not been consistent communication or the communication gave them false impressions. Either of which isn’t good…

                    The Brad

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