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Can we talk Whiskey?

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    I know it's not really something that we talk about around here, but I thought there might be one or two whiskey drinkers around here that might be able to answer a question or two?

    As I mentioned before, I am finally allowed to start a small little collection of maybe three bottles. I have my very good whiskey now I need to add my cheap and medium. So I thought I would try something different for a medium. I've had Johnny Walker Red a couple of times at conferences and fundraisers and it seemed okay, so I thought I would try a small bottle of Black. I don't find the appeal. I'm not sure that I get why. I've had peaty scotches before and don't mind them, but this? Meh... Any suggestions for a better $40 bottle?

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    @lufins-dad

    Glenfiddich 12 is about that price. It's not my favorite (nor is Glenlivit), but they're not bad. For $10 more, get some Glenmorangie (accent on the MOR, according to Brian Cox). Rich and flavorful.

    Someone asked about Monkey Shoulder (that you?). I like it.

    Ah, yeah, Glenfarclas too!

    I had 3 bottles of MacAllan - 10, 12, and 15 year old. Tried them as a "flight." Noticeable difference between the 10 and 12. Between the 12 and 15, not so much. Not worth the extra $$ imo.

    ETA: 89th....you can ge me some of this.

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I drink Johnnie Walker black when I want something that's ok, but not expensive. It's inoffensive (unlike me after I've had a few).

      I think it's worth spending $60-$70 instead of $40. As with most things, there's a sweet spot where you get the best value for money, and with Scotch I think that's where it currently is. This is one of the reasons I drink a lot less Scotch than I used to - it became quite a hobby for a while, thanks in no small part to a TNCR poster who shall remain nameless, but it got a bit expensive, and wasn't exactly the healthiest hobby for a middle aged bloke.

      For Speyside, you can't go wrong with Balvenie Double Wood.

      Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite, but it's too expensive, and not to everybody's tastes, it's very smoky and peaty.

      For Highland whiskey - Dhalwhinnie 15 is nice.

      I was only joking

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        I'm still pissed at @bachophile for not picking this up on his way to Chicago for me when he was at a duty-free shop.

        IMG_5057 copy.jpeg

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          I drink Johnnie Walker black when I want something that's ok, but not expensive. It's inoffensive (unlike me after I've had a few).

          I think it's worth spending $60-$70 instead of $40. As with most things, there's a sweet spot where you get the best value for money, and with Scotch I think that's where it currently is. This is one of the reasons I drink a lot less Scotch than I used to - it became quite a hobby for a while, thanks in no small part to a TNCR poster who shall remain nameless, but it got a bit expensive, and wasn't exactly the healthiest hobby for a middle aged bloke.

          For Speyside, you can't go wrong with Balvenie Double Wood.

          Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite, but it's too expensive, and not to everybody's tastes, it's very smoky and peaty.

          For Highland whiskey - Dhalwhinnie 15 is nice.

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          @doctor-phibes said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

          Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite, but it's too expensive, and not to everybody's tastes, it's very smoky and peaty.

          That was my favorite until the Port Charlotte. Both are terrific.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            I drink Johnnie Walker black when I want something that's ok, but not expensive. It's inoffensive (unlike me after I've had a few).

            I think it's worth spending $60-$70 instead of $40. As with most things, there's a sweet spot where you get the best value for money, and with Scotch I think that's where it currently is. This is one of the reasons I drink a lot less Scotch than I used to - it became quite a hobby for a while, thanks in no small part to a TNCR poster who shall remain nameless, but it got a bit expensive, and wasn't exactly the healthiest hobby for a middle aged bloke.

            For Speyside, you can't go wrong with Balvenie Double Wood.

            Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite, but it's too expensive, and not to everybody's tastes, it's very smoky and peaty.

            For Highland whiskey - Dhalwhinnie 15 is nice.

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            @doctor-phibes said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

            I drink Johnnie Walker black when I want something that's ok, but not expensive. It's inoffensive (unlike me after I've had a few).

            I think it's worth spending $60-$70 instead of $40. As with most things, there's a sweet spot where you get the best value for money, and with Scotch I think that's where it currently is. This is one of the reasons I drink a lot less Scotch than I used to - it became quite a hobby for a while, thanks in no small part to a TNCR poster who shall remain nameless, but it got a bit expensive, and wasn't exactly the healthiest hobby for a middle aged bloke.

            For Speyside, you can't go wrong with Balvenie Double Wood.

            Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite, but it's too expensive, and not to everybody's tastes, it's very smoky and peaty.

            For Highland whiskey - Dhalwhinnie 15 is nice.

            Like I said, I’ve had Walker Black and Red at various fundraisers and events and it was always fine, but this just tastes blech. Can there be a bad batch or something?

            The Brad

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              Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

              β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

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                @jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                πŸ˜†

                Single barrel bottlings. Git you some.

                β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

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                  @jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                  Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                  I’ll save the corn syrup to add to gasoline, thanks.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                    Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                    I’ll save the corn syrup to add to gasoline, thanks.

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                    @lufins-dad said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                    @jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                    Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                    I’ll save the corn syrup to add to gasoline scotch, thanks.

                    FIFY.

                    β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                      Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                      I’ll save the corn syrup to add to gasoline, thanks.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      @lufins-dad said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                      @jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                      Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                      I’ll save the corn syrup to add to gasoline, thanks.

                      Don't knock bourbon - it definitely serves a purpose. It's great for pre-conditioning whisky casks.

                      I was only joking

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                        Aberlour 12 will put you back about 60. I like it.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Oh dear...Speaking of Whiskey and Bourbon, here's the restaurant Karla just picked for us to go to Wednesday for our 20th Anniversary - https://www.bbcbar.com

                          Jon, are you ready to upgrade to that 214VC yet?

                          The Brad

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                          • George KG George K

                            I'm still pissed at @bachophile for not picking this up on his way to Chicago for me when he was at a duty-free shop.

                            IMG_5057 copy.jpeg

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                            @george-k said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                            I'm still pissed at @bachophile for not picking this up on his way to Chicago for me when he was at a duty-free shop.

                            IMG_5057 copy.jpeg

                            Yea I remember that one

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              I drink Johnnie Walker black when I want something that's ok, but not expensive. It's inoffensive (unlike me after I've had a few).

                              I think it's worth spending $60-$70 instead of $40. As with most things, there's a sweet spot where you get the best value for money, and with Scotch I think that's where it currently is. This is one of the reasons I drink a lot less Scotch than I used to - it became quite a hobby for a while, thanks in no small part to a TNCR poster who shall remain nameless, but it got a bit expensive, and wasn't exactly the healthiest hobby for a middle aged bloke.

                              For Speyside, you can't go wrong with Balvenie Double Wood.

                              Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite, but it's too expensive, and not to everybody's tastes, it's very smoky and peaty.

                              For Highland whiskey - Dhalwhinnie 15 is nice.

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                              @doctor-phibes said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                              Lagavulin 16 is my absolute favourite, but it's too expensive, and not to everybody's tastes, it's very smoky and peaty.

                              Too fucking medicinal tasting to me. I have one bottle sitting on the shelf for maybe the past three years which only gets served to whoever requests it. I won’t touch the stuff.

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

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                                @jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                                Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                                Thank you for saying this, Jolly. It needed to be said.

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                                  @lufins-dad said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                                  Walker Black

                                  I've been drinking Bourbon lately, mostly Jim Beam

                                  But this reminded me I had a bottle of Walker Black that I got a few months ago, I opened it tonight, it was nice.

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                                    β€œBarley, water, peat,
                                    weather, landscape, history;
                                    Malted. Swallowed neat.”

                                    https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/13/travel/why-scotlands-ghost-whisky-distilleries-are-coming-back-to-life/index.html

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

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                                      @Jolly said in Can we talk Whiskey?:

                                      Or, y'all could drink bourbon like normal people. πŸ˜›πŸ˜›

                                      https://www.chowhound.com/1597399/rare-expensive-bourbon-costco-cheap/

                                      According to whiskey-loving Redditors, a few members have been lucky enough to find a bottle of Blanton's single-barrel bourbon whiskey at their local Costco. Not only is it surprising for bourbon aficionados to find this bottle on the shelves, but finding it at a third of the typical cost makes it quite the treasure. If you're not familiar with the elusive bourbon distilled at the Buffalo Trace Distillery in Kentucky, it's considered one of the most coveted bottles on the market.

                                      Dubbed the "world's first single barrel whiskey" (per Blanton's website), this award-winning premium whiskey is not easy to find on liquor store shelves, largely due to high demand and low supply. The average price for a single bottle is typically around $150, which is why those lucky Redditors were giddy to find it at around $50 to $60 at select Costco warehouses.

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                                        https://vinepair.com/articles/wa-bartenders-most-overrated-whiskey-2025/

                                        The most overrated whiskeys, according to bartenders:

                                        Pappy Van Winkle
                                        The Bourbon Category
                                        Weller 12
                                        Green-apple-infused whiskey
                                        Scotch over a certain age statement
                                        Highly allocated bourbons over $100
                                        Blanton’s
                                        The entire Weller line
                                        Ultra-high-proof bourbons

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                                          Bourbon, period.

                                          Seriously, if you want to drink whiskey, get a bottle of Dad’s Hat…

                                          The Brad

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