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Hay, Mik! Your sig.

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

    Wow.

    What a great comment.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Sums up my position completely.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Agreed, good summary indeed. I know it's rhetorical, but for an answer I would say the extent of participation required is based on the value one places on their self-image being accepted by others.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          I haven't the need to accept nor reject it until you expect something from me. Like an idiotic pronoun fetish.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            George K
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            https://accordingtohoyt.com/2022/01/24/round-the-bend/

            To whom it may concern, no I won’t use your pronoun. You know why? Because when speaking about you, I’m not talking TO YOU. So to you I’ll say “Hey, you idiot with the pronoun listing, what’s wrong with your head that you think you can compel my speech.” When talking about you, otoh, I’ll say “That idiot who thinks he can compel my speech.” You might as well put your pronoun as “that idiot” and comply with truth in advertising laws.

            No, stupid pronoun declarations and making people obey them is not “just good manners”. It’s actually the poorest of manners, making other people responsible for indulging you. It’s demanding NOT liberty but permissiveness.

            In fact, all the idiocy we’re observing is permissiveness. It’s “Oh, poor things. Let’s not punish them.” and then suddenly it’s “Oh, poor things, have virtue because people like them were hurt in the past so we must all encourage them, indulge them and enable them.”

            I frankly couldn’t care less if you’re both a yellow, wingless dragon and an ornate building, provided you function in day to day society like a normal human being, you’re over 18, and you’re not making anyone else bow to you or tell you how ornate you are. If you choose to dress as a dragon in your own time and place, carry on. And if you spend hours online telling your friends about the crenelations on your soffit? I couldn’t care less. If we have something else in common, we might even be friends.

            But whether your particular insanity is that you think society owes you a living so you can ‘work on your art’ or that we’re insufficiently respectful of your sexual attraction to snail-darters, or that we don’t respect your opinion that 2 + 2 should be 459, my answer is “Go be crazy on your own time and place.” You have a right to be as crazy as you want to. You have a right to say all the crazy stuff you want.

            You do not have a right to make me pretend to agree with you.

            I will not say what you want me to. I will not wear what you want me to. I will not pretend that whatever your latest insanity is is all true. And I will not shut up when you want me to.

            I will be responsible for my own actions (which no, don’t include your unlawful reprisals. Those will be returned with interest) and I will not accept responsibility for your actions.

            Individual liberty and self-ownership but not one inch of mollycoddling and kowtowing.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Offline
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              A bit more aggressive than Chappelle's statement, but a pretty good expression of how I feel.

              Society doesn't owe you. You owe it.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Haven't read anything by her since her Monster Hunter days. I'll have to go check her latest stuff out...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Haven't read anything by her since her Monster Hunter days. I'll have to go check her latest stuff out...

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                  @jolly said in Hay, Mik! Your sig.:

                  Haven't read anything by her since her Monster Hunter days. I'll have to go check her latest stuff out...

                  The only Monster Hunter book that she worked on was Guardian, as far as I know? And that was the most recent one…

                  While it’s good for another female Fantasy author to come out against this particular brand of fascism since it’s become rampant in the genre, let’s not forget that she’s already on the outs with that group due to her friendship with Correira.

                  The Brad

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