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  • KlausK Klaus

    I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?

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    @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

    I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?

    To what end? To further enrich the retail store that achieved record profits last year and who have consistently and systemically marginalized so many BIBOC individuals by using racist tools such as “prices” to limit access to goods and services? If that’s not malignant and systemic racism, then I don’t know what is. The store didn’t make those goods and has no right to limit access of those goods to BIBOC. And the idea of using force to stop this individual? Just the idea is violence. Why are you so violent, @Klaus ?

    The Brad

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      I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

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      • MikM Mik

        Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

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        @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

        Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

        I did far worse things for $15 an hour. Horace said back then that his $15 were well spent, but he can't possibly be proud of what we did.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

          Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

          I did far worse things for $15 an hour. Horace said back then that his $15 were well spent, but he can't possibly be proud of what we did.

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          @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

          @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

          Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

          I did far worse things for $15 an hour. Horace said back then that his $15 were well spent, but he can't possibly be proud of what we did.

          Well it's true that I can't possibly be proud of what I've done.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

            Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

            I did far worse things for $15 an hour. Horace said back then that his $15 were well spent, but he can't possibly be proud of what we did.

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            @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

            @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

            Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

            I did far worse things for $15 an hour. Horace said back then that his $15 were well spent, but he can't possibly be proud of what we did.

            I don't think I want to know any more about this.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • KlausK Klaus

              I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

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              @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

              I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

              Generally speaking, employees (including security staff) are not allowed to stop someone from stealing or leaving a store. In rare occasions, some security staff are allowed to carry weapons and stop people, but that is rare...usually seen at a bank or jewelry store.

              It is unfortunate.

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              • 89th8 89th

                @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

                Generally speaking, employees (including security staff) are not allowed to stop someone from stealing or leaving a store. In rare occasions, some security staff are allowed to carry weapons and stop people, but that is rare...usually seen at a bank or jewelry store.

                It is unfortunate.

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                @89th said in Shoplifting is OK:

                @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

                Generally speaking, employees (including security staff) are not allowed to stop someone from stealing or leaving a store. In rare occasions, some security staff are allowed to carry weapons and stop people, but that is rare...usually seen at a bank or jewelry store.

                It is unfortunate.

                And that is the case all over the US, or just in some states/cities?

                What if somebody breaks into your house?

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  @89th said in Shoplifting is OK:

                  @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                  I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

                  Generally speaking, employees (including security staff) are not allowed to stop someone from stealing or leaving a store. In rare occasions, some security staff are allowed to carry weapons and stop people, but that is rare...usually seen at a bank or jewelry store.

                  It is unfortunate.

                  And that is the case all over the US, or just in some states/cities?

                  What if somebody breaks into your house?

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                  @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                  @89th said in Shoplifting is OK:

                  @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                  I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

                  Generally speaking, employees (including security staff) are not allowed to stop someone from stealing or leaving a store. In rare occasions, some security staff are allowed to carry weapons and stop people, but that is rare...usually seen at a bank or jewelry store.

                  It is unfortunate.

                  And that is the case all over the US, or just in some states/cities?

                  What if somebody breaks into your house?

                  It's the case nearly everywhere in the US. I'd say the only places you can't shoplift these days are in smaller towns where you'd get the crap kicked out of you with a wink to the nearest sheriff deputy.

                  If someone breaks into your house, in most states/cities you have the right to shoot them (in the front)... if you shoot them in the back (i.e., they are leaving) you might be guilty of manslaughter.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                    @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

                    Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

                    I did far worse things for $15 an hour. Horace said back then that his $15 were well spent, but he can't possibly be proud of what we did.

                    I don't think I want to know any more about this.

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                    @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

                    @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                    @mik said in Shoplifting is OK:

                    Would you risk life and limb for $15 an hour?

                    I did far worse things for $15 an hour. Horace said back then that his $15 were well spent, but he can't possibly be proud of what we did.

                    I don't think I want to know any more about this.

                    I can still hear the screams of the sheep.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                      @89th said in Shoplifting is OK:

                      @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                      I appreciate all the sarcasm, but my questions were out of genuine curiosity.

                      Generally speaking, employees (including security staff) are not allowed to stop someone from stealing or leaving a store. In rare occasions, some security staff are allowed to carry weapons and stop people, but that is rare...usually seen at a bank or jewelry store.

                      It is unfortunate.

                      And that is the case all over the US, or just in some states/cities?

                      What if somebody breaks into your house?

                      It's the case nearly everywhere in the US. I'd say the only places you can't shoplift these days are in smaller towns where you'd get the crap kicked out of you with a wink to the nearest sheriff deputy.

                      If someone breaks into your house, in most states/cities you have the right to shoot them (in the front)... if you shoot them in the back (i.e., they are leaving) you might be guilty of manslaughter.

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                      @89th said in Shoplifting is OK:

                      If someone breaks into your house, in most states/cities you have the right to shoot them (in the front)... if you shoot them in the back (i.e., they are leaving) you might be guilty of manslaughter.

                      What about forcing them to wait for the police?

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                        https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-walmart-lawsuit-settlement-shoplifter-20190305-story.html

                        https://omaha.com/news/local/shoplifter-who-suffered-skull-fractures-brain-damage-wins-750-000-in-lawsuit-against-store/article_a313f390-439d-5029-a556-300976e6623d.html

                        https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/palm-beach-gardens/family-suing-palm-beach-gardens-gas-station-after-bystander-killed-during-robbery

                        The Brad

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          @89th said in Shoplifting is OK:

                          If someone breaks into your house, in most states/cities you have the right to shoot them (in the front)... if you shoot them in the back (i.e., they are leaving) you might be guilty of manslaughter.

                          What about forcing them to wait for the police?

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                          @klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:

                          @89th said in Shoplifting is OK:

                          If someone breaks into your house, in most states/cities you have the right to shoot them (in the front)... if you shoot them in the back (i.e., they are leaving) you might be guilty of manslaughter.

                          What about forcing them to wait for the police?

                          In your house? Sure if you can keep them from escaping. In a store? That's hard to do without physically restraining the person. Most employees/security will not touch the shoplifter, so waiting for the police is not usually an option.

                          ALL OF THAT BEING SAID... as always, what you see on the media is a massive overblown representation of what is happening out there. In any store in the US, you are 99.9999% likely not to see any of this. Now, if you live in certain areas, that probability drops to maybe 97%.

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                            My favorite store robbery:

                            Link to video

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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