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JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work"

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  • ImprovisoI Improviso

    @Loki said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

    I read somewhere that2/3 of coronavirus deaths in Pennsylvania are in nursing homes.

    Minnesota says, "Hold my Beer".

    Statewide, the respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus has killed more than 600 Minnesotans at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities. That is a staggering 81% of the deaths from the pandemic statewide. No other state in the nation that reports such data has such a high percentage of deaths in long-term care, according to an analysis by a Texas-based nonprofit. Nationwide, outbreaks in long-term care facilities have claimed 33,000 lives — more than a third of all deaths nationwide, according to the Associated Press.

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    @Improviso said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

    33,000 from Nursing Homes?! Damn, we better shut down Chuck E. Cheese!

    The Brad

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      There's never a bad time to shut down Chuck E. Cheese.

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        @Improviso said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

        33,000 from Nursing Homes?! Damn, we better shut down Chuck E. Cheese!

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        @LuFins-Dad said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

        @Improviso said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

        33,000 from Nursing Homes?! Damn, we better shut down Chuck E. Cheese!

        Good thing S&W Cafeteria went out of business, huh?

        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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          Ok... it was a SE USA thing.

          They were always filled to the max with seniors. Old people LOVED the place.

          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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            Over the years I've gone into a lot of nursing homes to give out gifts to the residents. In my experience, the majority of them are awful places, with poorly trained and uncaring staff, sorry assed administrators, poor care, etc. The families of a lit of the residents are just as bad.. dumping off grandma and never coming back to visit, just dividing up her stuff among themselves and leaving her there alone to die.

            A lot of nursing home residents are just heartbroken, lonely old people who can't take up for themselves and know that no one gives a shit about them.

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            • LarryL Larry

              Over the years I've gone into a lot of nursing homes to give out gifts to the residents. In my experience, the majority of them are awful places, with poorly trained and uncaring staff, sorry assed administrators, poor care, etc. The families of a lit of the residents are just as bad.. dumping off grandma and never coming back to visit, just dividing up her stuff among themselves and leaving her there alone to die.

              A lot of nursing home residents are just heartbroken, lonely old people who can't take up for themselves and know that no one gives a shit about them.

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              @Larry said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

              Over the years I've gone into a lot of nursing homes to give out gifts to the residents. In my experience, the majority of them are awful places, with poorly trained and uncaring staff, sorry assed administrators, poor care, etc. The families of a lit of the residents are just as bad.. dumping off grandma and never coming back to visit, just dividing up her stuff among themselves and leaving her there alone to die.

              A lot of nursing home residents are just heartbroken, lonely old people who can't take up for themselves and know that no one gives a shit about them.

              Joe R. Lansdale wrote about that. His novel had a ridiculous premise but he worked in such a facility. That part of it was very true to form.

              Please love yourself.

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              • ImprovisoI Improviso

                @Loki said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

                I read somewhere that2/3 of coronavirus deaths in Pennsylvania are in nursing homes.

                Minnesota says, "Hold my Beer".

                Statewide, the respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus has killed more than 600 Minnesotans at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities. That is a staggering 81% of the deaths from the pandemic statewide. No other state in the nation that reports such data has such a high percentage of deaths in long-term care, according to an analysis by a Texas-based nonprofit. Nationwide, outbreaks in long-term care facilities have claimed 33,000 lives — more than a third of all deaths nationwide, according to the Associated Press.

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                @Improviso said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

                @Loki said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

                I read somewhere that2/3 of coronavirus deaths in Pennsylvania are in nursing homes.

                Minnesota says, "Hold my Beer".

                Statewide, the respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus has killed more than 600 Minnesotans at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities. That is a staggering 81% of the deaths from the pandemic statewide. No other state in the nation that reports such data has such a high percentage of deaths in long-term care, according to an analysis by a Texas-based nonprofit. Nationwide, outbreaks in long-term care facilities have claimed 33,000 lives — more than a third of all deaths nationwide, according to the Associated Press.

                I keep this sort of data in mind when I read about all the lives that could have been saved if we'd socially distanced a couple weeks earlier.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • LarryL Larry

                  Over the years I've gone into a lot of nursing homes to give out gifts to the residents. In my experience, the majority of them are awful places, with poorly trained and uncaring staff, sorry assed administrators, poor care, etc. The families of a lit of the residents are just as bad.. dumping off grandma and never coming back to visit, just dividing up her stuff among themselves and leaving her there alone to die.

                  A lot of nursing home residents are just heartbroken, lonely old people who can't take up for themselves and know that no one gives a shit about them.

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                  @Larry said in JP Morgan: "Lockdowns don't work":

                  Over the years I've gone into a lot of nursing homes to give out gifts to the residents. In my experience, the majority of them are awful places, with poorly trained and uncaring staff, sorry assed administrators, poor care, etc. The families of a lit of the residents are just as bad.. dumping off grandma and never coming back to visit, just dividing up her stuff among themselves and leaving her there alone to die.

                  A lot of nursing home residents are just heartbroken, lonely old people who can't take up for themselves and know that no one gives a shit about them.

                  Yes, and it is a national shame.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Medicaid.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      The economics of caring for the elderly like we all think, in the detached abstract, they should be cared for, would be crippling. If the kids aren't taking the parents in and caring for them personally then it's not realistic to expect that it will get done at an acceptable level.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        It is partly cultural. It does not seem like in the US, it is normal to have multi generations living together.

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