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    Jolly
    wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 21:36 last edited by
    #1

    Do y'all remember when 7 deaths stopped the swine flu vaccine?...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/theysayitsrare

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 22:41 last edited by
      #2

      How many people have died of Covid compared?

      Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

      I was only joking

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        21 Dec 2021, 22:41

        How many people have died of Covid compared?

        Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 23:35 last edited by
        #3

        @doctor-phibes said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

        How many people have died of Covid compared?

        Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

        That account does a serious disservice to anyone who reads it. 9 thousand examples, say, each listed one after another with unique details would make anyone believe these events were commonplace. That's why any emphasis placed on them without any semblance of context is tantamount to lying.

        Please love yourself.

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          21 Dec 2021, 22:41

          How many people have died of Covid compared?

          Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

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          Jolly
          wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 23:56 last edited by
          #4

          @doctor-phibes said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

          How many people have died of Covid compared?

          Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

          Because I distrust Pfizer immensely. Also, the CDC numbers are in abysmal shape. You would think one of the premier number-crunching bureaucracies on the planet would have some of the best statistics.

          VAERS is overblown, but I think if we ever do get some true numbers, especially for 30 and under crowd, I think surprises await...As in vaccine side effects vs. COVID mortality or long term COVID effects.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
            wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 00:05 last edited by
            #5

            We shouldn't post things like this

            Because it will change everyone's mind about vaccination

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            • J Jolly
              21 Dec 2021, 23:56

              @doctor-phibes said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

              How many people have died of Covid compared?

              Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

              Because I distrust Pfizer immensely. Also, the CDC numbers are in abysmal shape. You would think one of the premier number-crunching bureaucracies on the planet would have some of the best statistics.

              VAERS is overblown, but I think if we ever do get some true numbers, especially for 30 and under crowd, I think surprises await...As in vaccine side effects vs. COVID mortality or long term COVID effects.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 03:50 last edited by
              #6

              @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

              Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

              Based on what?
              You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

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              • A Axtremus
                22 Dec 2021, 03:50

                @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                Based on what?
                You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

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                Jolly
                wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 07:51 last edited by
                #7

                @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                Based on what?
                You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  21 Dec 2021, 22:41

                  How many people have died of Covid compared?

                  Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 09:35 last edited by jon-nyc
                  #8

                  @doctor-phibes said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                  Seriously, Jolly, I don’t understand why you keep posting links to all this stuff

                  The daily dumbeat of fringe right wing media. Even people in the medical fields succumb over time.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 11:38 last edited by
                    #9

                    Which is no better than the fools that think the NYT is an honest paper.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • A Axtremus
                      22 Dec 2021, 03:50

                      @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                      Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                      Based on what?
                      You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 16:44 last edited by
                      #10

                      @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                      Based on what?
                      You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                      It's not a matter of trust

                      It is a matter of their interests

                      Like it or not, they are in it for the money, which is great.

                      But it eliminates trust when it comes to profits

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                      • J Jolly
                        22 Dec 2021, 07:51

                        @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                        @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                        Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                        Based on what?
                        You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                        You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 16:57 last edited by
                        #11

                        @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                        @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                        @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                        Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                        Based on what?
                        You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                        You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                        Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          22 Dec 2021, 16:57

                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                          @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                          Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                          Based on what?
                          You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                          You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                          Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 17:58 last edited by
                          #12

                          @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                          @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                          Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                          Based on what?
                          You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                          You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                          Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

                          The "please" was a nice touch. If we say "please", will you start answering questions put to you?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            22 Dec 2021, 16:57

                            @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                            @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                            @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                            Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                            Based on what?
                            You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                            You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                            Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 21:18 last edited by
                            #13

                            @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                            @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                            @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                            @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                            Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                            Based on what?
                            You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                            You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                            Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

                            Illegal activity

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • J Jolly
                              22 Dec 2021, 21:18

                              @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                              @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                              @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                              @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                              Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                              Based on what?
                              You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                              You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                              Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

                              Illegal activity

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 22:14 last edited by
                              #14

                              @jolly

                              Can you be more specific?

                              Elbows up!

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 22:44 last edited by
                                #15

                                How about we start with the British Journal of Medicine’s recent story… https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

                                The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 22 Dec 2021, 22:47 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  There was also the whole testing drugs on Nigerian Kids thing back in 2007 I believe? Numerous allegations of fraudulent data from clinical trials in the past doesn’t help…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    22 Dec 2021, 22:47

                                    There was also the whole testing drugs on Nigerian Kids thing back in 2007 I believe? Numerous allegations of fraudulent data from clinical trials in the past doesn’t help…

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 00:32 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @lufins-dad said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                    There was also the whole testing drugs on Nigerian Kids thing back in 2007 I believe? Numerous allegations of fraudulent data from clinical trials in the past doesn’t help…

                                    The problem with this particular conspiracy theory is that Pfizer isn't a black box. COVID is the medical discussion of the world right now. Doctors, scientists, statisticians, etc., etc. are studying everything involving the virus, including one of the most widely-distributed vaccines.

                                    If you'd like to claim that Pfizer is shady AF, that's fine but it's nowhere near enough to debunk the effectiveness of their vaccines. Be prepared to have to make qui bono accusations against every independent researcher on the planet for any "they're hiding the numbers" claims to be taken seriously.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 01:14 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      $2,300,000,000.00

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        23 Dec 2021, 00:32

                                        @lufins-dad said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                        There was also the whole testing drugs on Nigerian Kids thing back in 2007 I believe? Numerous allegations of fraudulent data from clinical trials in the past doesn’t help…

                                        The problem with this particular conspiracy theory is that Pfizer isn't a black box. COVID is the medical discussion of the world right now. Doctors, scientists, statisticians, etc., etc. are studying everything involving the virus, including one of the most widely-distributed vaccines.

                                        If you'd like to claim that Pfizer is shady AF, that's fine but it's nowhere near enough to debunk the effectiveness of their vaccines. Be prepared to have to make qui bono accusations against every independent researcher on the planet for any "they're hiding the numbers" claims to be taken seriously.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 01:31 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                        @lufins-dad said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                        There was also the whole testing drugs on Nigerian Kids thing back in 2007 I believe? Numerous allegations of fraudulent data from clinical trials in the past doesn’t help…

                                        The problem with this particular conspiracy theory is that Pfizer isn't a black box. COVID is the medical discussion of the world right now. Doctors, scientists, statisticians, etc., etc. are studying everything involving the virus, including one of the most widely-distributed vaccines.

                                        From the link…

                                        In her 25 September email to the FDA Jackson wrote that Ventavia had enrolled more than 1000 participants at three sites. The full trial (registered under NCT04368728) enrolled around 44 000 participants across 153 sites that included numerous commercial companies and academic centres. She then listed a dozen concerns she had witnessed, including:

                                        Participants placed in a hallway after injection and not being monitored by clinical staff
                                        Lack of timely follow-up of patients who experienced adverse events
                                        Protocol deviations not being reported
                                        Vaccines not being stored at proper temperatures
                                        Mislabelled laboratory specimens, and
                                        Targeting of Ventavia staff for reporting these types of problems.
                                        Within hours Jackson received an email from the FDA thanking her for her concerns and notifying her that the FDA could not comment on any investigation that might result. A few days later Jackson received a call from an FDA inspector to discuss her report but was told that no further information could be provided. She heard nothing further in relation to her report.

                                        In Pfizer’s briefing document submitted to an FDA advisory committee meeting held on 10 December 2020 to discuss Pfizer’s application for emergency use authorisation of its covid-19 vaccine, the company made no mention of problems at the Ventavia site. The next day the FDA issued the authorisation of the vaccine.8

                                        In August this year, after the full approval of Pfizer’s vaccine, the FDA published a summary of its inspections of the company’s pivotal trial. Nine of the trial’s 153 sites were inspected. Ventavia’s sites were not listed among the nine, and no inspections of sites where adults were recruited took place in the eight months after the December 2020 emergency authorisation. The FDA’s inspection officer noted: “The data integrity and verification portion of the BIMO [bioresearch monitoring] inspections were limited because the study was ongoing, and the data required for verification and comparison were not yet available to the IND [investigational new drug].”

                                        The Brad

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          22 Dec 2021, 21:18

                                          @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                                          Based on what?
                                          You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                                          You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                                          Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

                                          Illegal activity

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 23 Dec 2021, 01:58 last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          @axtremus said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          @jolly said in Interesting Twitter Account.:

                                          Because I distrust Pfizer immensely.

                                          Based on what?
                                          You distrust only Pfizer, or also Moderna and Johnson & Johnson too?

                                          You do know about Pfizer, don't you?

                                          Please, share your reasons for distrusting Pfizer.

                                          Illegal activity

                                          What illegal activity?
                                          Kindly cite specific cases.

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